I'll try it later, but that seems really troublesome comepared to
implementing a pagestyle that is left only from the beginning.


On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:28:57 -0600, Rod Engelsman
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> G. Roderick Singleton wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I have a question, are you using right and left page styles as opposed
> > to the default? If yes then I would check to see what your page breaks
> > are doing. Perhaps you do not need some.
> >
> 
> This is a long-standing issue that took me awhile to puzzle out. I have
> to produce papers for my classes that specify a Title page and then the
> next page is numbered starting with "1". The book-centric paradigm of
> left/right, even/odd pages is so deeply ingrained into the program that
> it applies even when using nothing but the Default page style.
> 
> The first physical page is assumed to right/odd; the next is assumed to
> be left/even and so forth. So what happens is that if you insert a
> manual page break and utilize the option to reset the page numbering,
> the program decides whether the following page is left or right hand
> based on whether the page number is odd or even.
> 
> Take a couple minutes and try this out:
> 
> 1. Create a new blank document.
> 
> 2. Open the Stylist, right click on Default page style, and select
> "New". Call it "Title Page" and hit "Ok".
> 
> 3. Assign the new "Title Page" style to the first blank page of your
> document.
> 
> 4. Type a few words, then select "Insert -> Manual Break". Select "Page
> Break", Style "Default", check the box to "Change page number" and set
> the next page number to "1". Hit "Ok".
> 
>    You will notice that the status bar now reads "Page 1 3/3". What
> happens is that OOo inserted an invisible extra page between the Title
> page and the First page. Invisible in the sense that you don't see it on
> screen, but it produces an extra blank page when printed or exported as
> a pdf.
> 
>    So now you think you have it figured out and you're going to get
> clever. :)  So you select the First Page style and modify it to only
> produce Left hand pages. No joy. If you start on the Title page (first
> physical page), select Insert -> Manual Break... and specify First Page
> style, and tell it to start with page 1, you get an error dialog that
> states:
> 
> "Page numbers cannot be applied to the current page. Even numbers can be
> used on left pages, odd numbers on right pages."
> 
> The problem is that there is no setting in the page styles for "Inline"
> or whatever you would want to call it. A page *will be* either left or
> right, end of discussion. And furthermore, left pages *will be* even and
> right pages *will be* odd, end of discussion. It's very stubborn that way.
> 
> Fortunately, there is a work-around!! Here's how I made it work out for me:
> 
> 1. Create a Title page style from Default.
> 
> 2. Lay out your Title page however it needs to look and then at the end,
> select "Insert -> Manual Break..." and specify Next Style as "First
> Page", numbered 1. You'll get that phantom page baloney, but we'll fix that.
> 
> 3. *Now* go into the Stylist and modify the First page style layout to
> be "Left Only".
> 
> Now you will see in the status bar "Page 1 2/2", which is what we want.
> The page style following First Page is default and the page numbering
> will proceed without surprises from there.
> 
> Like I said, this is a long-standing issue with lots of comments in IZ
> (I don't have the issue number handy). A lot of people produce documents
> for pdf publication or whatever and the left/right, even/odd paradigm
> produces unexpected results. It isn't helped by the fact that there is
> absolutely *no* way to set up page styles a priori to make this work
> without the workaround I detailed above.
> 
> Rod
> 
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