It would appear that on Jul 20, Barbara Duprey did say:

> Sorry there's so much visual stuff that is so hard to avoid -- it must really
> be difficult, congratulations for managing anyway! 

At times... And to be honest, I'm sure my brain does use visual data.
But I suspect, slightly differently than most...  When it comes to
icons, many of the cute little pictures don't look to me like the
image they're supposed to represent.  Though after MUCH exposure SOME
icons do become meaningful to me. But never more so than a known
sequence of text characters.  And that's why I prefer menu sequences.
The sequence "File|Save" for example, has more meaning for me than a
picture of a floppy disk ever did. (first I have to remind myself
that it probably doesn't mean "File|Open" etc...) 

Still my biggest problem with toolbars is that they are generally only
useful via the mouse, rather than the keyboard.  So I most always
turn as many of them off as I can. 

> The problem you had at first with View > Toolbars is that unless the toolbar
> is currently visible, changing that setting doesn't fix anything.
> But once it's showing, you can get rid of it, and it then stays away.

That is the behavior I expected. But for some reason they didn't stay
away unless they were also docked when I turned them off. That is to
say I didn't bother trying to turn the dang thing off until it showed
up. Then I turned to the menu to uncheck it. But it kept coming back.
Which is why I found this list. Where I learned how to at least dock
the durned thing. At which point I felt that too much vertical screen
space was occupied by toolbars in general and turned them off again.
This time it stayed away. 

In any case: Thanks!

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