In news:[email protected],
RA Brown <[email protected]> typed:
> Hi All,
>
> We have been seeing a lot of discussion about printing
> envelops from OpenOffice.org. I decided to try and do
> something about it. In the process of doing the research I
> found this web blog page,
> http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/envelopes/ . I can
> not say how good or bad the page is at this time as I have
> only started working on this, but hope that it maybe of
> some use to others.
> If the information is helpful let me know, if not also let
> me know. You can reach me through the list or direct if
> need be.
> I will be doing what I can to help in the documentation
> project, guides and wiki and provide the information to the
> Issue tracker.
> Andy
FWIW, it seems the way OO.o does envelopes uses the bottom of the envelope
page and right side of it to base all its calculations on. The problem with
using the bottom as a reference is that it means the printer must have the
exact same paper size settings as the envelopes. OTOH, Word measures
everything from the top of the page, so as long as the paper in the printer
is => the envelope in use, some manageable is a lot more likely to appear
without havng to mess with the printer settings at all.
I still use Word for my envelopes simply because it's so simple to use,
especially if you have to do an odd sized envelope. As long as the envelope
width is less than 11 inches, I don't have to even touch the printer
settings to print envelopes. The final form feed kicks the envelope out so
the length of the prevously paper is moot as long as it wasn't too short.
.25" from the top for return address and 2.25" or whatever it is for the
Adressee is a lot less trouble to set up than when everything is referenced
to the BOTTOM of the sheet of paper; that practically guarantees the need to
make printer settings changes, which shouldn't be necessary for any standard
or near standard sized envelopes.
Same for the left/right orientation too; referenced from the left side
is a straight forward calulation but when 00.o uses the right edge, again
you must mess with the printer settings to get it to work right.
I do not like messing with the printer settings; it's silly to have to do so
in these cases when it's just not necessary if the references were simply
changed.
In the event I've mis-spoken or done nothing but make muddy water, I can
supply a couple rudimentary dwgs that make it a lot clearer, but ... it's
also easy to see if you just take the measurements and how they're applied
in Word and then in OO.o and the differences become pretty easy to see.
I used to think it might be a code or patent problem but since then I've
decided no, it's not, because too many other programs do it basically the
same way MS does in Word and they're not having issues with MS. I fnally
came to the conclusion that the setup in OO.o was a case of re-inventing the
wheel, and badly, whatever the reason was.
This and about 4 other very basic problems are something IMO that holds OO.o
back from having a much wider customer base than it has. IMO again, to
provide such an excellent piece of code with such basic, completely
unacceptable problems and not have on the "fx soon!" list is totally
unacceptable.
Taking care of the rev0 discovered bugs would be a tremendous step
forward for OO.o and would remove many of the annoyng things people come
across that drive them away from it. I have essentally returned to MS Office
because of them, qute honestly. Envelopes is one of four of five problems I
consider ludicrous to have allowed to live this long in the code, from day
one in other words.
I feel encouraged and really hope that there can be some progress made on
these very annoying problems. I'll never be able to serously recommend OO.o
until most of them ARE taken care of either.
Twayne`
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