Twayne - [email protected] wrote:
In news:[email protected],
RA Brown<[email protected]>  typed:
Hi All,

We have been seeing a lot of discussion about printing
envelops from OpenOffice.org.  I decided to try and do
something about it.  In the process of doing the research I
found this web blog page,
http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/envelopes/ .  I can
not say how good or bad the page is at this time as I have
only started working on this, but hope that it maybe of
some use to others.
If the information is helpful let me know, if not also let
me know. You can reach me through the list or direct if
need be.
I will be doing what I can to help in the documentation
project, guides and wiki and provide the information to the
Issue tracker.
Andy

FWIW, it seems the way OO.o does envelopes uses the bottom of the envelope
page and right side of it to base all its calculations on. The problem with
using the bottom as a reference is that it means the printer must have the
exact same paper size settings as the envelopes.

That's strange. On my version (OOo 3.2.0 on Windows Vista), the Insert Envelope dialog has the position of the addressee and sender frames specified "from left" and "from top".

OTOH, Word measures
everything from the top of the page, so as long as the paper in the printer
is =>  the envelope in use, some manageable is a lot more likely to appear
without havng to mess with the printer settings at all.

Which printer settings do you have to mess around with? I wouldn't be surprised if you had to tell it the size of the envelope, as you might if you were using a different size paper than usual.

I think part of the problem is that different printers handle envelopes differently. Some, like yours it would seem, can take them through from the top and print as normal. With others, like mine, you have to feed envelopes in sideways so the page has to be rotated (i.e. printed landscape). And then some take the envelope down the left side, some the right, and some even have paper guides which slide together into the middle.

That seems to be the reason for the options on the "Printer" tab of the Insert Envelope dialog. That seems to create the appropriate spacing above/left of the envelope to adjust for where the envelope sits in the paper feed, without having to set the paper size in the printer settings. After setting that option correctly (fourth option for my printer and DL envelopes), I have never had to mess around with printer settings, not even to set the paper size.

I agree some clear(er) documentation would be helpful; I found the correct options to use for my printer mostly by trial-and-error, but I don't then have to mess around with printer settings as well. Of course that may vary for different printers, and maybe there is a better way of handling differences between printers, but I'm not sure what that way would be.

    I still use Word for my envelopes simply because it's so simple to use,
especially if you have to do an odd sized envelope. As long as the envelope
width is less than 11 inches, I don't have to even touch the printer
settings to print envelopes. The final form feed kicks the envelope out so
the length of the prevously paper is moot as long as it wasn't too short.
.25" from the top for return address and 2.25" or whatever it is for the
Adressee is a lot less trouble to set up than when everything is referenced
to the BOTTOM of the sheet of paper; that practically guarantees the need to
make printer settings changes, which shouldn't be necessary for any standard
or near standard sized envelopes.

I don't think I've ever used Word to print envelopes, so I can't really comment on how it handles them.

<snipped>

Twayne`

Mark.


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