On 06/07/2011 12:21 AM, Mike Scott wrote: > On 07/06/2011 04:43, NoOp wrote: >> On 06/06/2011 12:01 PM, Mike Scott wrote: >>> On 06/06/11 19:24, Tim Deaton wrote: >> ... >>>> I've subscribed to [email protected] as well. I think I've gotten >>>> 15-20 messages from there within the last 12 hours. So apparently much >>>> of the activity has moved there. >>> >>> That's the impression I have. I stayed subscribed for a few days until I >>> got sick of the top/bottom post bickering that seemed to swamp the list, >>> said my bit about that and left. >>> >> >> Perhaps because the LO lists are missing something as simple as: >> <http://www.openoffice.org/ml_guidelines.html> >> <quote> > ... > But it has - in spite of one offender saying there were none, every mail > on the list has appended a url of such guidelines, which seemed imo > reasonably clear. I prefer bottom, but follow general practice: what > really annoyed me was the deliberate and pointed top-posting onto an > existing 'bottom-posted' thread by that same offender. Now /that/ makes > for severe confusion.
No disagreement from me there. > >> That said; Oracle has granted the OOo software to the Apache Software >> Foundation so it appears that much, if not all of OOo is currently up in >> the wind right now. There are hundreds of new posts regarding this on >> the ASF Incubator list as well as others. A post on the OOo discuss list >> generated one response: >> <http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.general/57072> >> [Oracle donates OpenOffice.org to the Apache Foundation] > > That's puzzling. I'd have thought discuss@OOo would be abuzz with > comment; as a mere user, I'm wondering what the future holds. Apache > couldn't be worse than Oracle, could they??? :-) > Probably better to move this over there. If IBM have their way with ASF it could be $0.99 cent download: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.general/29614> <quote from Rob Weir (IBM)> Of course, this is not necessarily a problem for Apache. Think of it this way. It would be perfectly possible, and actually quite easy for someone to host the files with a scalable cloud storage provider, e.g., Amazon, and charge $0.99 for the download, the cost of an iPhone app. That is over $30 million/year. Heck, I might just do that myself and retire! </quote> Full thread: <http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.general/29573> Cool! OOo at 130MB or so that is mirrored all over the world (including many public education, goverment, and non-profit servers flipped to an unreliable Amazon cloud (wonder why he didn't recommend an IBM cloud instead) and charge $0.99 cents for the download. Note: take that with a huge grain of salt as I seriously doubt that will happen. However, it does give an insight to what the IBM have in mind... google just might be your friend in this case. In any event, good luck to OOo. OOo has been a workhorse & friend to me for many years... I am sincerely sorry to have witnessed the downhill transitions. Regarding the Oracle/ASF issues: In all honesty, I suggest following the threads (many, many, many) on the ASF Incubator list as well as those on the LO discuss lists to learn more. There were some threads on the OOo marketing list for awhile, but those seem to have fizzled out. Best bet is to follow up comments to the discuss list thread as long as the discuss list continues to exist. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] For additional commands send email to [email protected] with Subject: help
