No one cares!

> To: [email protected]
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:54:28 -0700
> Subject: [users] Re: Still active?
> 
> On 06/07/2011 12:21 AM, Mike Scott wrote:
> > On 07/06/2011 04:43, NoOp wrote:
> >> On 06/06/2011 12:01 PM, Mike Scott wrote:
> >>> On 06/06/11 19:24, Tim Deaton wrote:
> >> ...
> >>>> I've subscribed to [email protected] as well. I think I've gotten
> >>>> 15-20 messages from there within the last 12 hours. So apparently much
> >>>> of the activity has moved there.
> >>>
> >>> That's the impression I have. I stayed subscribed for a few days until I
> >>> got sick of the top/bottom post bickering that seemed to swamp the list,
> >>> said my bit about that and left.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Perhaps because the LO lists are missing something as simple as:
> >> <http://www.openoffice.org/ml_guidelines.html>
> >> <quote>
> > ...
> > But it has - in spite of one offender saying there were none, every mail 
> > on the list has appended a url of such guidelines, which seemed imo 
> > reasonably clear. I prefer bottom, but follow general practice: what 
> > really annoyed me was the deliberate and pointed top-posting onto an 
> > existing 'bottom-posted' thread by that same offender. Now /that/ makes 
> > for severe confusion.
> 
> No disagreement from me there.
> 
> > 
> >> That said; Oracle has granted the OOo software to the Apache Software
> >> Foundation so it appears that much, if not all of OOo is currently up in
> >> the wind right now. There are hundreds of new posts regarding this on
> >> the ASF Incubator list as well as others. A post on the OOo discuss list
> >> generated one response:
> >> <http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.general/57072>
> >> [Oracle donates OpenOffice.org to the Apache Foundation]
> > 
> > That's puzzling. I'd have thought discuss@OOo would be abuzz with 
> > comment; as a mere user, I'm wondering what the future holds. Apache 
> > couldn't be worse than Oracle, could they??? :-)
> > 
> 
> Probably better to move this over there.
> 
> If IBM have their way with ASF it could be $0.99 cent download:
> <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.general/29614>
> <quote from Rob Weir (IBM)>
> Of course, this is not necessarily a problem for Apache.  Think of it
> this way.  It would be perfectly possible, and actually quite easy for
> someone to host the files with a scalable cloud storage provider, e.g.,
> Amazon, and charge $0.99 for the download, the cost of an iPhone app.
> That is over $30 million/year.  Heck, I might just do that myself and
> retire!
> </quote>
> 
> Full thread:
> <http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.general/29573>
> 
> Cool! OOo at 130MB or so that is mirrored all over the world (including
> many public education, goverment, and non-profit servers flipped to an
> unreliable Amazon cloud (wonder why he didn't recommend an IBM cloud
> instead) and charge $0.99 cents for the download.
> 
> Note: take that with a huge grain of salt as I seriously doubt that will
> happen. However, it does give an insight to what the IBM have in mind...
> google just might be your friend in this case. In any event, good luck
> to OOo. OOo has been a workhorse & friend to me for many years... I am
> sincerely sorry to have witnessed the downhill transitions.
> 
> Regarding the Oracle/ASF issues: In all honesty, I suggest following the
> threads (many, many, many) on the ASF Incubator list as well as those on
> the LO discuss lists to learn more. There were some threads on the OOo
> marketing list for awhile, but those seem to have fizzled out. Best bet
> is to follow up comments to the discuss list thread as long as the
> discuss list continues to exist.
> 
> 
> 
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