Just to add a little to Dan's previous reply.

On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 05:15 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i am not a subscriber to this list. CC

Thanks for that. This is a busy list and this makes it a bit easier to
identify non-subscribed users.

> thank you at least for your reply.

Your welcome. We try to help where we can.

> you are of course right that my previous email was out of frustration anger

Yep! Been there, done that ;-)

> and genral dissapointment with open office org.

I think maybe some of your disappointment might have stemmed from
preconceived ideas you had about OOo. If I may, I would like to reply to
your complaints, in the hope that they will alleviate some of the
disappointment you have expressed.

> my first complaint was that i had too many clicks to reach the finnal doan 
> load , unpack files and reg, before i could open up and try what open office 
> was like.

The number of clicks is a subjective issue. What may be a lot to one
person, might be very little to someone else. OOo is a very large and
complex package and (IMNSHO) the installation process compares
favourably to other software with similar functionality.
BTW registration is optional. It does nothing, other than provide the
community with a very rough guide as to how many people/organisations
are using OOo.

> secondly when opening my exel files i continualy received a warning that 
> marcos were unsafe, and to turn them off before i could open this file. this 
> did not happen before!

As Dan has already stated, this is turned on by default to assist the
unwary user against malicious macros. This warning can easily be
configured to your own personal preference or turned off completely,
through the program options.

> when sending email the receiver could not open them as they were ODF files, 
> as these files were sent clean direct from ' open office'  and not from 
> microsoft offic.

Understand that OOo is not a Microsoft Office clone. By default OOo uses
the standard (ISO/IEC 26300:2006) Open Document Format, which MS Office
does not currently have the ability to use. However, OOo can both open
and save in MS Office formats with a high degree of compatibility. OOo
can also be configured to save in MS Office formats by default, through
the program options.

> now can you see were my frustration anger is coming from.

Frustration, yes, because expected OOo to be identical to MS Office.
Anger, no, because financially it cost you nothing (unless you pay per
Mb for downloads) and it did not damage your computer.

> for i was told that open office was as good as microsoft

As good, arguably true, but different enough to require some small
understanding of the differences.

> and ready to use.

Millions of people and a large number of businesses (me and mine
included) use OOo for serious work every day.

> then when i have had enough i find i cannot uninstall and when idid try 
> microsoft method it still left files behind

Can you please tell us what _type_ of files you _think_ it left behind?
Were these data files you created with OOo, or were they files that
formed part of the OOo program itself?

> and maybe some i dont know about.

I seriously doubt that. Over several years I have installed and
uninstalled several versions of OOo on hundreds of computers and have
never found this to be an issue.

On this point, I may be wrong, but I have a strong suspicion that you
are referring to the Windows file associations that you actively
selected when you installed OOo. If this is the case, I would agree with
you that OOo's uninstall procedure should be changed, to offer the
option to restore these associations to their original state. However,
advice about how to manually restore these associations can be found
here: http://user-faq.openoffice.org/faq/ar01s04.html#FILE-ASSOCIATIONS

> it would be better if you had supplied a clean uninstall method and then 
> maybe i would not be so angry with this product this product.

While I don't fully understand your "anger", I would agree that there
are some aspects of OOo's uninstall functionality that could and
possibly will be improved.

> 'thanks for nothing'  is a sarcastic remark but i feel justified in making 
> it.

Please understand that OOo is an ongoing community project not a company
product, which is developed and supported by volunteers, with the
assistance of some corporations (mainly Sun Microsystems) and has
limited development resources available to it. No it is not and does not
claim to be perfect, but in the few short years of it's existence (see:
http://about.openoffice.org/index.html#history ) it has made and will
continue to make considerable progress and improvements.

I am not sure that sarcastic remarks are really "justified", if you
consider the things I have outlined above. I feel that if you had taken
a little more time to look through some of the information provided in
the program's help function and/or some of the basic documentation on
the website, or even posting a question in this forum, you could have
saved yourself some stress.

Whether or not you continue to be frustrated and/or angry about OOO,
please post back to this list with details of the files you believe have
been left behind on your computer and we will do what we can to assist
you in resolving this issue.

Regards
Dave

> mike rogers
> M's service
> i am not a subscriber to this list 'CC'.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 2:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [users] [moderated] Unistalling OOo
> 
> 
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 19:29 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> i am very disapointed with open office.org after downloading from the
> >> internet two days ago.
> >
> > Sorry to hear that you were "disappointed" with OOo (OpenOffice.org).
> > However, it would be very helpful if you could give us few brief
> > specifics about what aspects of OOo disappointed you. This will enable
> > us to determine if there was some misunderstanding on your part, or if
> > there is something we can do to improve OOo, that may encourage you to
> > consider reinstalling OOo at some future date.
> >
> >> and now i wish to uninstall. icannot find an uninstall button.
> >
> > That's because there is no uninstall "button". You uninstall OOo through
> > the Windows standard control panel method. The only "gotchya" to watch
> > out for is that you must use the right click context menu option
> > "close/exit" of the OOo Quickstarter icon in the taskbar tray. This is
> > something I would like to see changed in OOo, but that's another story.
> >
> >> i have tried to remove via the controll pannel
> >
> > OK! You have used the correct uninstall method, but did you close
> > Quickstarter (see above)) first?
> >
> >> but still i have some files left behind and douments i cant open.
> >
> > Are these files you have created or edited with OOo? If we are to help
> > you resolve this, you will need to tell us what type of files they are.
> >
> > If they are files/documents saved in ISO/IEC 26300:2006 standard format,
> > you will need software that can convert these files into other formats.
> > At the present time the best software to do this is OOo. Microsoft
> > software cannot currently do this, although there is a plug-in under
> > development for some of their products to achieve a measure of
> > compatibility with the ISO standard.
> >
> >> thankyou for nothing
> >
> > Obviously, you are upset and frustrated about something, but making
> > sarcastic comments is unlikely to encourage anyone here to come forward
> > and help you. A far better approach would have been to approach this
> > support mailing list requesting help with your OOo issues before
> > attempting to uninstall. It very possible that we could have resolved
> > these issues for you and you, like millions of others, would be a
> > satisfied user of OOo.
> >
> > I hope my reply has been of some assistance to you.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Dave
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