On 09/18/2007 04:48 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
> On 18/09/2007 22:33, Diabolic Preacher wrote:
>> On 9/19/07, Gregory Forster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>   
> <snip>
>>>  I try to clean up my hard drive now and then.
>>>     
>>
>>
>>   
> <snip>
> 
> Users who are not subscribed to this list are, nevertheless, allowed to 
> post to it. When you reply to such a post and do not explicitly include 
> the poster's e-mail address in the To: or Cc: list of your reply then 
> the poster won't receive it and you will have been wasting your time.
> 
> You can tell if a poster is unsubscribed by looking at the *headers* of 
> the e-mail. If  and only if the headers include "Delivered-To: moderator 
> for [email protected]" then the poster is *not* subscribed. Note that 
> there will *always* be a "Delivered-To: mailing list 
> [email protected]" header regardless of the status of the poster.
> 
> I use Thunderbird (Mozilla's e-mail program) to read this list. It can 
> be taught (via filters) to automatically "tag" messages with this 
> header/value so that I don't actually need to look at the headers - 
> tagged messages are highlighted in the inbox. Other e-mail programs may 
> offer similar functionality.
> 
> As far as I know, if you read this list via a Newsreader (via Gmane) 
> then you'll never see the relevant header and you won't be able to tell 
> if the poster of a given message is subscribed or not.
> 

Actually if you read via Gmane you can tell, you just need to look at
the headers. For example the headers will show:

Delivered-To: mailing list [email protected]
Delivered-To: moderator for [email protected] <== this is the
relevent header

The problem is that not all news readers allow you to sort on headers,
and it really shouldn't be up to any responder to bother looking up
headers when replying. But then this list has discussed this before... :-)

I've seldom look at headers (not my job:-), but if there is a
[moderated] tag in the subject line I'll try to add a cc to the
unsubscribed user. Also if it's obvious that the poster is unsubscribed
(from the post details) then I'll look at the headers.

Personally I think that allowing unsub'ed posters is probably OK *if*
each unsub'ed post is tagged with [moderated]. I'd prefer that all be
subscribed, but if _all_ unsub'ed posts were tagged 'moderated] or such
folks here wouldn't have these discussions every month.

Gary

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