>>> On 1 Aug 2008 at 12:17, Jason Hunter wrote:
>>>
>>> ....
>>>> The "terrance" account was designed to silently listen to the
>>>> mailing list in order to produce an archive record for
>>>> markmail.org. The account was not designed to send email. The
>>>> only time it is allowed to send email is to (a) confirm its
>>>> subscription and (b) confirm its unsubscription.
> Mr. Hunter,
>
> There have been apparently reliable reports from others on this list
> that the "terrance" account referenced a real person known to the
> staff at the hospital mentioned below. Further reports indicate that
> the hospital was contacted and the staff there said they would
> contact Mr. Carver.
My quick search did not come up with a match to that.
But more importantly, whoever did dig up the information did themselves
a huge disfavor because they had NO knowledge that it was connected to
the spam; it was simply assumed.
The ONLY correct way to identify the source of a spam is by parsing
the headers! Then and only then, if it can be determined they were NOT
forged, can such a thing be linked to any living ISP, let alone a person
or an organization!
Only a namesearch could have come up with the reports that magically
appeared; I watched this thread because it was interesting and I never
did see anything that connected the name with the spam.
IF I'M WRONG, CHARGE ME SO AND SHOW ME WHERE IT HAPPENED and I
will sincerely, profusely apologize to that person, but I am pretty sure
I am NOT wrong. NEVER, EVER use a namesearch lookup to match anything to
a spam!
And finally, whether a name seems to be unique or not, one can never
assume that. Names such as that are often a chain of Jr, II, III, etc.,
and historical alternative spellings. You just can't assume a name
doesn't today or won't tomorrow, exist. The opportunity to find an
innocent party is just too great. IMO "Project something at something"
makes a lot better name for something like what went through here.
Hopefully more t han one person has learned something from this thread.
Twayne
>
> === Begin quote #1 ===
> Some more information about our friend:
>
> Terrance Melton Carver
> CEO, Rockingham Memorial Hospital (http://www.rmhonline.com/)
> Harrisonburg, VA 22801
> Previous Cities: Manassas, VA | Arlington, VA | Vienna, VA | Fairfax,
> VA Relatives: Debra L Carver | Terry L Carver
> === End quote #1 ===
>
> === Begin quote #2 ===
> I spoke to the Administrations office about this issue at the hospital
> and they
> said they would contact him. I have also forwarded one of the longer
> messages on
> to them to see what a problem it is.
> === End quote #2 ===
>
> These quotes can be found in the "official" archive of this list and,
> presumably, in your archive of it also.
>
> Are these reports correct? If so then it seems to me you owe him at
> least an apology. If the reports are not true, how did his name get
> traced from his e-mail address? Or was it *really* a coincidence that
> you chose a name that turned out to belong to a real person? It's not
> exactly a common name ...
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