Am 1. Oktober 2026 um 14:05 schrieb "Olaf Kock" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]?to=%22Olaf%20Kock%22%20%3Ctomcat%40olafkock.de%3E >:
> > Am 30.09.26 um 17:43 schrieb James H. H. Lampert via users: > > > > > On 9/29/26 11:45 PM, Olaf Kock wrote: > > . . . > > > > > > > > I'll have to say: I'm in favor of some way of removing the default apps > > > > > . . . > > > > We do that every time we update Tomcat on a customer box, before we > > even start the new Tomcat. Now understand, this is the procedure for > > an IBM Midrange box, in which Tomcat lives entirely in a single > > directory, but be that as it may: > > > I did it a similar way when I was installing my own tomcat - under > ArchLinux it was a first to use the packaged installation, expecting it > to be updated with the regular OS updates, and it is. With the one > caveat that the default webapps are coming with every update and > overwrite my installed app that I've deployed as ROOT. > > I'm aware that the manager app is not required, personally I haven't > used it in >15 years, but I had the impression that it is quite popular > in some circles. That's why I've mentioned it, preempting the need for > someone to protest. Given the odds to pick the same name for a custom > app, the odds for ROOT are certainly orders of magnitude above something > called "manager" or even "docs". And tomcat's default ROOT has no real > business value other than providing a home page, no code that anybody > could rely on, and a big chance to conflict with a custom app. > > All of this is unnecessary when the proper deployment steps are in > place, and they're well documented in Tomcat's docs. > > But it'd help tremendously to do the right thing from the start, not > only after getting hit with disaster for the first time... > > And I can tell you: Just using the OS's built-in tomcat, that gets > updated automatically, is quite a nice experience in general. The only > time it wasn't was recently when there was a regression with jsvc... > > Olaf > I don't know the arch tomcat packages but I know the one used by RedHat/Fedora which has the sample apps in sub packages. So do our own inhouse RPMs. Why not ask the arch maintainers to split the package accordingly? Simon
