This is a very interesting and surprising post in this forum. Do you have
further explanation about your superior productivity using Grails? Is this
due to the kind of applications you developp or to special tools that comes
with this framework? Is the key stone groovy?
Thanks for your enlighments!

Curtis Cooley-2 wrote:
> Martin Sachs wrote:
>>> <p>I'm looking for a little comparison of the development-time for
>>> Applications in Wicket against other Technologies. </p>
>>> <p>
>>> I think the development with Wicket is two times faster than Struts. But
>>> what are your experiences on JSF, Rails/Grails, SpringMVC/SpringWebFlow.
>>> </p>
>>> Anyone you know the development-time from experience ?
>>> <br>
>>> (P.S.: The applications must use AJAX and many custom components or tags
>>> in JSP, not just a hello world sample)
> I built a small database driven application in about 4 days using Grails
> then my boss freaked about using a "4GL" and made me rewrite it in
> Wicket. That took me about 3 weeks.
> Now, I started at 0 with both frameworks and used
> Wicket+Spring+Hibernate which I got Spring and Hibernate wiring for free
> with Grails. My Spring and Hibernate experience was 0, so grails really
> pulled through in that area. I also have experience with Ruby and Rails
> which helped with the Grails work, but I'd also built a few (4-5) Wicket
> pages for another app, so I think that about balances starting points.
> My really rough guess is that I'd be 50 to 75 percent more effective in
> Grails than Wicket now that I know what I learned during the three weeks
> of Wicket work.
> If I had my druthers, I'd build our app using Grails. I much prefer
> Groovy/Ruby to Java, and I've been writing Java since 1.1!
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