As it is clear that on EL products sold in the US the French OZ LIQ does not
figure at all that unit is meant to popularize ifp trash in metric
countries, even if they will never admit that. They use TWO different
labels, one for the US market, the other for the market outside the US. This
makes their objection about having to have more than one label invalid. That
was their case. They claimed that they wanted to have only one label for all
markets, with 'supplemental' units on them, which in fact are not
supplemental at all but primary. As they have two different labels, the one
for outside the USA could and should have been metric only. No way of
course. Ifp takes pride of place with that French garbage attached. They
make me violently sick.

Han

----- Original Message -----
From: kilopascal
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Friday, 2003-01-24 0:53
Subject: [USMA:24582] RE: estee lauder


2003-01-23

It was very difficult to read the labels of the containers.  But, it appears
that the label contains only English and French.  I don't see any reference
to the "oz liq" in French, just the English "Floozys".  I don't know if
these products sold in other countries have the same label, or if they in
fact have different language labels.  If so, I wonder if the continue to use
the FFU even if it doesn't make sense to do so.

The reason they don't specify UK or US, is because they use an "ounce" that
fulfils both.  Since 30 mL is the larger of the three units, it is the one
that has to be met.  The end user isn't going to care if he/she is told they
are getting 1 ounce and actually get a millilitre or two more.  If they got
less, then there would be problems.

I wonder if the Euro price shown for the Irish Republic is the same in other
countries as well.  And if it does vary, I wonder by how much.





John


----- Original Message -----
From: kilopascal
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Thursday, 2003-01-23 18:37
Subject: [USMA:24581] RE: estee lauder


2003-01-23



Beware of line wrapping on the URL references.




Line wrapping does not happen if you sent your post in "rich text" or html
format.   If you want to increase the chance of people clicking on the link
and feel your effort to post the e-mail was worth your effort, then use html
whenever you include a hyperlink in your posting.

Most people don't know how to cut-and past the severed link in their
browser, or if they do won't bother to make the effort.  Thus your time and
effort to post the link is wasted.

For those that could not open the links before, I have converted the posting
to html and reconnected the links.  Now, you should be able to visit the
sites.  See below:


'8.5 OZ/250 ml'
www.esteelauder.co.uk/en/prod_dir/single_prod_non_color.jhtml?productId=PROD
1041

'2FL OZ/OZ LIQ/60 ml'

www.esteelauder.co.uk/en/prod_dir/single_prod_non_color.jhtml?productId=PROD
1190


'5 FL OZ/150 ml'

www.esteelauder.co.uk/en/prod_dir/single_prod_non_color.jhtml?productId=PROD
1164


'6.7FL OZ/200 ml'

www.esteelauder.co.uk/en/prod_dir/single_prod_non_color.jhtml?productId=PROD
1174


 Terry Simpson
 Human Factors Consultant
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.connected-systems.com
Phone: +44 7850 511794



John

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