Living on earth, we discovered, by feeling it, weight before mass. By the way pound is a unit of force, similar to the early kgf, slug is the equivalent of mass. Anyway, we all know that the customary unit are confusing, thus the SI system.
John Altounji One size does not fit all. Social promotion ruined Education. Education is values first, then knowledge. https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjohnaltounji.weebly.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cusma%40lists.colostate.edu%7C12d577e5c28a4ebb277e08d8d6a5a0ac%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C1%7C637495354154703232%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=1A1QULbdb%2BZmafEa2rwTZMSiJmNybbQ0uDE8wfzj5uY%3D&reserved=0 From: USMA <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Steele Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 8:22 AM To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>; Remek Kocz <[email protected]> Subject: [USMA 1683] Re: Pliiz do NOT shove your obscurantist foot/pound down people's throats Agree. I'm not sure about other languages, but in English, in law and commerce, weight is a synonym for mass, and physics and engineering "borrowed" (stole?) the word for force of planetary gravity acting on the mass (not for any other force), AND declared the rest of us can't use it for mass any more. I think we have to accept "weight" is completely ambiguous, and could refer to either the mass or the force of gravity on it; the intended meaning MUST be inferred from context and it is extremely pedantic to not do so. It is no different than recognizing a foot is either something on the end of your leg or 0.3048 m. English is full of ambiguity. Using the force interpretation, my "weight" in newtons is also the earth's weight in my gravitational field. Does that make sense? (equal and opposite). We won't even get into pounds (mass) and pounds-force (lbf). On Saturday, February 20, 2021, 09:28:59 AM EST, Remek Kocz <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I'm an anesthesiologist, so I deal with patients' weights and weight-based medication dosing every day. You're absolutely right, no one calls it "mass." If I had a patient insist on calling it "mass," we'd end up having an interesting conversation and I'd oblige, but I won't change my practice. All the docs have taken a combined 3 years of physics and chemistry in college, so we do understand the distinction between mass and weight. Interestingly enough, once in a while we do get patients who will state their weight in kilograms. The are for the most part the unfortunate folks who have a chronic condition and have been exposed to the healthcare system long enough to realize that nearly everything under the hood is metric. Moments like these are always a reminder that in the US, weights and measures are part of the inscrutable medical jargon. It shouldn't have to be this way. On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 10:21 AM Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I doubt there is anywhere on earth where people converse using ‘mass’ iso ‘weight’. You’re damaging your point. I have ulcerative colitis and i have to see the GP, specialists, all the time etc etc and they always ‘weigh’ me and ask me to have my weight done - etc etc On 18 Feb 2021, at 2:16 pm, Remek Kocz <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I don't know if your email will accomplish much. Keep things brief. You're not providing the developers anything useful by defining every single SI unit. Their eyes will just glaze over after a few sentences. Instead, make sure to rate the app accordingly with a short comment. They do pay close attention to their App store/Play store ratings. On Feb 18, 2021, at 05:59, Nodextrose Org <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I downloaded your app and was very upset it requires entering data in non-metric, which i refuse to do. Until you allow metric units and international date standard, i recommend to usma a boycott of your app. Also, you should use body mass instead of Weight. The unit of Weight is the Newton, the unit of mass is the Kg. From a scientific viewpoint :All the units of electricity and magnetism are derived from the meter, kilogram, coulomb and second. Till exempel, the volt is defined, such as if an electric charge of 1 coulomb changes electric potential by 1 volt, there is energy exchange of 1 joule. As a consequence, an electrical current of 1 amp thru 1 volt for 1 sec delivers energy of 1 joule, which is the kinetic energy of 2 kg moving at 1 m/s. ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE IS NO RELATION BETWEEN AMPERE, VOLT, JOULE AND THE STUPID OBSCURANTIST FOOT/POUND. If you use the volt as a unit of electrical potential difference, you are using the metric system, 1 volt = 1 joule/coulomb and the joule is derived from meter, kilogram and second, THERE IS NO RELATION BETWEEN AMPERE, VOLT, JOULE AND THE STUPID OBSCURANTIST FOOT/POUND. Similarily, the unit of magnetic field, 1 tesla is defined as if an electric charge of 1 coulomb is moving at a velocity of 1 m/s perpendicular to a magnetic field of 1 tesla, it experiences a force of 1 newton perpendicular to both the magnetic field and velocity vectors. 1 Newton is the force that accelerates 1 kilogram by 1 m/(s^2). THERE IS NO RELATION BETWEEN Tesla, Newton AND THE STUPID OBSCURANTIST FOOT/POUND. Einstein's famous equation, E = m x c^2 works only in metric and other coherent systems: m is in Kg, c = 3 x 10^8 m/s , E = energy in joules, 1 wh = 3600 (watt-sec or joules). 1 more reason to dump the stupid moronic idiotic foot/pound system and switch to metric. Thus in the metric system, 1 Kg of matter that gets completely converted into energy, would generate 9 x 10^16 Joules or (9 x 10^16/3600000) = 2.5 x 10^10 KWH To apply Einstein's famous equation in non-metric units, the unit of energy would be defined as the kinetic energy of 2 units of mass moving at a speed of 1 unit of length/sec and the speed of light in vacuum expressed in units of length/sec. Since we already have 1 Volt x 1 Amp x 1 sec = 1 Joule of electrical energy, for non-metric units, you would have to define another obscure unit of energy. As a direct consequence of Maxwell's equations, the electric and magnetic fields of an electromagnetic wave traveling in vacuum, which are 3 dimensional vectors, are perpendicular to each other and the ratio of their magnitude E/B = c , the speed of light in vacuum 299792458 m/s so if the magnetic field B=1 tesla,the electric field E=299792458 newton/coulomb. слава матэматику, слава науку, слава Мэндэлеву и бог хранит атзйстом. 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