On 17/11/2017 09:56, Leif Johansson wrote:
> On 2017-11-17 01:01, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
>>
>> People are forgetting that especially smaller sites
>> that implement STS or DANE don't always have the
>> operational discipline to keep these working.  I
>> have considerable evidence to support this claim.
>>
>> A sender with urgent non-sensitive messages may well
>> reasonably want to see the message delivered despite
>> such failures.  Indeed, this is typically the right
>> thing to do with failure reports!
>>
>> At present, the sender address I use to send DANE
>> failure notices is statically exempted from enforcing
>> DANE policy (rather than message by message).
>>
> 
> The sense of the room in Singapore was that the semantics
> of REQUIRETLS=NO was sufficiently different from REQUIRETLS
> that it would be better to move it to a separate document.
> It was suggested that REQUIRETLS=NO might be better
> represented as a message header even.
> 
> In any case it is not clear to me that there is or ever was
> consensus to keep this feature /in its current form/ in the
> REQUIRETLS draft.

(As a participant) Maybe write a separate draft?

> As always, discussions on the list will determine this but
> barring clear support for keeping the feature in the draft
> we need to find another form for this feature.

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