----- TC below brings up the subject of a flat-plane air filter. It is
doable and the cost is not much. I have a Venture which I am converting to
Max specs. The air box in the Venture is smaller than the Max's, but is
somewhat similar in that there is a vertical air filter and air horns. The
space requirements in the Venture air box results in shorter air horns,
which are not as advantageous to mid-range torque as the Max's longer air
horns.
I visited a local auto store with the air box lid in hand and test fitted
flat auto air filters until I found one that fit. The filter that fits the
Venture is off an '83 Ford Tempo.
I gutted the inside of the air box and pop-riveted 1/2 inch "L-Shaped"
aluminum extrusions horizonatally along the four vertical walls of airbox,
thus forming a "shelf" around all four sides of the air box. The air filter
fits perfectly, and I have installed foam rubber weatherstripping along the
sides so as to make a friction fit for the air filter.
Head space above the air horns is important. I think you need a minimum of
1.5", the more the better. This may cause a need to raise the airbox on the
airhorns. There is a bit of space between the top of the air box and the
fake tank cover.
There is yet another variation, which I am pursuing at this moment. I am
using the longer Max air horns for increased mid-range torque, and have the
airbox raised on the air horns so that they just protrude inside the airbox.
Now, I will not be able to install my fake tank cover. I will cut a hole in
it and push the air box up through the hole into comparatively cold air.
Then I will figure out some small air scoop and install it over the hole.
Rey Kirkman
VMOA #439
>
> For "stacks" inside the filters ... If you are thinking of using the
> rubber ones I don't think you will be able to get the filter bases
> over the rubber stacks ... both items expect to be clamped to
> something two inches in diameter. If you put a modest flare on some
> short pieces of 2 inch tail pipe ... it is exactly the right size,
> (matches the outside diameter of the top of the carbs). You will need
> eight more clamps and four ... one inch long pieces of two inch
> diameter hose .......clamp the flared tailpipe to the top of the carbs
> and the K&Ns to the pipe, (slide K&N up and tighten the clamp). The
> pipe flares have to be cut flat on one side to miss the straight side
> of the filter, (but then it is easier to get them up inside the
> filters) ... You have almost an inch and a half, (depending on how you
> turn them ... before the edge of the top of the filters hit the lid in
> the rear .. so to really do anything you have to run the pipe up into
> about 1/3 of the filter ..... The K&N filters, (which are 4 3/4 inches
> tall), have a solid top so it compounds the problem. I got disgusted
> with them a long time ago .... and the modified airbox works great for
> me ... (I just took the tee shirt and decided to go on with my life).
> If you want to have free breathing and the velocity stacks too, (to
> make the carbs behave), just stretch UNI filter foam over the top of
> the stock airbox base .... "Somebody" ;>) should quit fooling around
> and just make a replacement top for the stock airbox to hold a "flat"
> automotive type filter .... That would give you suitable filtration
> without restriction and allow you to keep the velocity stacks
> .......... it also keeps the carb tops in the "high pressure" area
> under the cover, (because of the high sides of the airbox base). This
> is my opinion and I know a lot of people have no problem with the
> setup as it is ........ soooooooo ... different strokes for different
> folks ... when you have them working right you can't beat 'em
> ................ when they aren't working right ... everyone beats
> them ......
> campbell
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Detamore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Two Bros Racing oval slip-ons & Stage 7 Kit cont.
>
>
> > why not just drop the rear mains a notch or so? i'll also let you
> know
> > if my airhorns under 4 filters set-up helps this any.
> > snip <
> > steve#1131
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: TC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: Two Bros Racing oval slip-ons & Stage 7 Kit cont.
>
> >> snip <
> >> .... "two normal looking plugs and two that are
> > > darker" ... and please correct me if I am wrong but the darker
> ones
> > > should be the ones in the rear ...... Been there ... done that ...
> got
> > > a tee shirt ......... and if you keep putting bigger and bigger
> main
> > > jets in the rears will just keep getting darker and the fronts
> will
> > > continue to look just fine.
> >> snip <
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