Dear Marcantonio,

Good point.  If I could engineer my modest needs into proper engineering...

Consider how much pollution and emissions are created in fabricating a
replacement vehicle.

Your good words have me reconsidering the meaning of conservative...

Thanks!

Paul

On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 8:35 PM Marcantonio Rendino <
[email protected]> wrote:

> oh dear.
>
> I will choose one specific issue in your list:
>
> emissions inspections are very much a safety issue - I for one, would
> prefer to be free (remaining topical, to our rights as US citizens) of the
> pollution otherwise thrust upon me and my family.
>
> and I'll close again, with the recommendation that - regardless how
> inflamed with righteousness one might be - it's still not the best idea to
> proclaim so publicly, one's intent to circumvent the law - though perhaps
> the point is, to invite prosecution and thus further champion the cause.
>
> regardless: godspeed
>
> On Sep 9, 2024, at 5:33 PM, Paul Flint <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Greetings Marcantonio and Stan,
>
> One of the most cherished aspects of the United States is our propensity
> to disobey bad laws.  American history
> is replete with civil disobedience such as ignoring racial separation,
> prohibition, unjust war to name a few.
> The 'crypto fascism'  represented by the current Vermont "safety
> inspection" system is actually  a regressive tax
> imposed on folks just trying to get to work or buy some groceries.
> Several options come to mind.
>
> Since you need a car to survive (employment), could the "working poor" be
> granted a subsidiary to get their vehicles to pass
> safety inspections?
>
> Could we add a mileage factor?  Retired folks do not have the same miles
> on the road as say an 18 wheeled commercial vehicle.
>
> How did "safety inspections" require emission inspections?  Something is
> wrong here.  Corruption has found its way into a well intended system
>
> What started with the best of intentions is now an automated monster.
>
> I will strive for Civil Disobedience!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Paul Flint
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> 12:30 PM (4 hours ago)
> Greetings List Lurkers, One of the founding principles of BOSI and the
> TechnoRubble project is the concept of reuse. Yet governments at all levels
> conspire agai
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 3:54 PM Marcantonio Rendino <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> nice to see you too, Stan 😏
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2024, at 3:48 PM, Stanley Brinkerhoff <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Half replying because I saw MFR pop open on my screen for the first time
>> in years.  Perhaps being pedantic here -- but we are geeks -- The act of
>> clearing the ECU isn't the actual issue here -- there isnt a flag that "you
>> have cleared the nvram", it's more than the I/M readiness is cleared when
>> you clear the codes, and to I/M readiness being ok needs the emissions
>> system needs to run for long enough to cycle through modes (open loop,
>> closed loop) and observe the oxygen sensors and such working properly.  An
>> inspection station won't let you pass unless I/M readiness is in a
>> completed status.
>>
>> Stan
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 3:41 PM Marcantonio Rendino <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Might I suggest that it's not the best idea to discuss how to circumvent
>>> the law, in a somewhat public forum. You know; if the moral aspect of the
>>> issue isn't enough to dissuade…
>>>
>>> > On Sep 9, 2024, at 12:30 PM, Paul Flint <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >  Greetings List Lurkers,
>>> >
>>> > One of the founding principles of BOSI and the TechnoRubble project
>>> > is the concept of reuse.  Yet governments at all levels
>>> > conspire against all concepts and ideas of conservation and reuse.
>>> case in point:
>>> >
>>> > TECHNO-FASCISM...
>>> >
>>> > My 2013 ExXerra car needs to pass inspection.  Little did I know that
>>> the On Board Diagnostic (OBD2) "clear codes" leaves them in the OBD2 log,
>>> which disqualifies the Vermont auto safety inspection.
>>> >
>>> > So today's technical hack involves how you beat this…
>>>
>>
>>
>

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