Hi Rance,

Nice idea you brought to the list.

i see tons of tools to use that help what you're trying to achieve: nagios,
shared folders, network communication with a third agent that will
reconfigure the vm (very like nagios). I'm not sure that make the guest
communicate directly with a hypervisor is a good idea. The common knowledge
of virtual machines says that the visualized machine should not be aware
that it's been virtualizated (from a computing point of view, not from the
user point). I think that the whole idea of the vm talking directly to the
hypervison could have serious security implications.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:46 PM, gmartin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Here's maybe a less kludgey approach.  Use a monitoring tool like Nagios
> external to the VMs to monitor the guests for various performance parameters
> (Nagios can monitor ANYTHING).  When the host exceeds certain parameters for
> certain periods of time, launch an event handler to make your system
> reconfiguration.
>
> http://www.nagios.org/
> <http://www.nagios.org/>
> http://nagios.sourceforge.net/docs/nagioscore/3/en/eventhandlers.html
>
> \\Greg
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Rance Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:53 PM, JD <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On 03/02/2011 08:44 AM, Rance Hall wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> >> So I put it to the community:
>> >>
>> >> What do you guys think?  Is this something that would work for you?
>> >>
>> >> I'm willing to discuss alternative implementation ideas if the basic
>> >> idea has merit but the serial support idea does not work, maybe
>> >> something like a virtual "Integrated Lights-Out"
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your time.
>> >>
>> >> Rance
>> >>
>>
>> > Guy, this is a very easy to kludge a solution for.
>> > Share a directory between host and VM.
>> > The host will have a script that will monitor the presence
>> > of a file in that folder. That file will be created by the script
>> > in the guest VM when it needs to ask the host to fire up
>> > another VM. So, when that file is visible o the script on the host,
>> > it will fire up the seconf VM. Subsequently, the guest VM script can
>> delete
>> > that file when the load goes below peak, and the script on
>> > the host will notice the file's disappearance, and shutdown
>> > the second VM.
>> > You can select different file names for different  VM's to fire up
>> > and shut down.
>> > Be sure your script on the host does not chew up to much
>> > cpu on the host.
>> >
>> > Good luck.
>> >
>> > JD
>> >
>>
>> JD:
>>
>> You are absolutely right.  This is kludge-able.  I question the
>> scalability of the kludge and therefore question the "easy"ness of it.
>> But that is beside the point really.
>>
>> BDIM is much more than the examples I provided and as we know kludging
>> all possible options is not a kludge it is a nightmare.
>>
>>  If I was interested for just myself I would have kludged and moved on.
>>
>> I think there is a larger audience for this type of thing, and it may
>> be worth NOT kludging it.
>>
>> And that last bit is the reason for the list discussion.
>>
>> For my own use I will keep in mind shared folders idea for this, as I
>> think it does have limited utility.
>>
>> Rance
>>
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