I agree, might as well use what Apache says.  Just to provide alternatives, 
though, the current name for such things is "static site generator".  Believe 
it or not, it's become one of the hot topics on many of the web design podcasts 
and blogs that I follow (perhaps a reaction to "heavy" solutions like 
WordPress, perhaps a reaction to the current popularity of Github).  Here's a 
site which lists many such tools:


Tony Miller
Technology Consultant, ITCS, East Carolina University
mill...@ecu.edu /\ http://blog.ecu.edu/techtips

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Coburn [mailto:acob...@amherst.edu] 
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 2:10 PM
To: <vcl-u...@incubator.apache.org>
Cc: <vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Rework the Apache VCL website?

On May 4, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Andy Kurth wrote:

> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Aaron Coburn <acob...@amherst.edu> wrote:
>> As for the website, I agree that some design work would be really 
>> useful. I am assuming that ASF would provide a hosting arrangement, 
>> i.e. a domain like vcl.apache.org? Would that also include server space to 
>> run any type of CMS?
> Yes, ASF hosts all project websites and provides server space.
> If/when we graduate, the podling website will be moved to 
> vcl.apache.org.  Apache provides a CMS but it is up to the community 
> whether to use it or something else as long as the content is static.
> More info is here:
> http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html
> -and-
> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html

Thanks, I read about Apache's CMS, and I don't see any compelling reason not to 
use that. It supports both HTML and Markdown formats. Updates are managed by 
subversion, and it seems like it will be easy to use. 

Aaron Coburn

>> Confluence is a nice all-in-one package, though if you are 
>> considering a complete overhaul of the site, I could also recommend a 
>> system like Drupal (MySQL + PHP). Drupal has a lot of bells and 
>> whistles that can make for a very nice, highly interactive site. The 
>> downside of drupal is that it is not specifically designed to handle 
>> software documentation. On the other hand, if we only need to serve 
>> static html pages that focus on documentation, etc, I can also 
>> recommend Sphinx. The downside of Sphinx is that it is really best 
>> for Python and C++ projects, and it doesn't support web-based updates
>> -- it does create excellent sites, though.
> I also like Drupal but don't think it can be used due to the static 
> requirement.  We actually use this for NCSU's VCL front page.
> I'm not familiar with Sphinx.  It looks like at least one other 
> project is using Sphinx:
> http://chemistry.apache.org/python/docs/docs.html
> -Andy
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Aaron Peeler <fapee...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
>> Yes, I agree the site needs to be updated. I'm fine to move to ASF 
>> CMS, especially if this the future direction.
>> Aaron
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Andy Kurth <andy_ku...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
>>> The Apache VCL project website (https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL) could 
>>> use some improving.  It is automatically generated from the 
>>> Confluence wiki site 
>>> (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/Apache+VCL).
>>>  I'm not sure exactly how this works but some things have never 
>>> worked quite right... small details such as the left nav bar not showing up.
>>> I'd like to start reworking the site and would like ideas/help from 
>>> anyone interested.  The first step would be to decide on an 
>>> underlying platform/CMS.  I have nothing against Confluence but the 
>>> ASF is moving away from it in favor of the "ASF Content Management 
>>> System".  More information is here:
>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html
>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html
>>> Tools have been written to assist in migrating from Confluence to 
>>> the ASF CMS.  See the bottom of the wiki page:
>>> http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010
>>> At first glance this seems like a logical path to pursue.  Thoughts?
>>> -Andy
>> --
>> Aaron Peeler
>> Program Manager
>> Virtual Computing Lab
>> NC State University
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