Unfortunately, I'm not sure if the CMS will be set up prior to graduation:

Joe Schaefer added a comment - 30/May/12 16:49
Aren't you planning to graduate next month? I'd prefer not to create a
CMS site for your incubator site if next month we have to throw all that
away and start fresh.



On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Andy Kurth <andy_ku...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
> Just an update.  We are waiting for the ASF infrastructure group to
> set up the CMS.  The Jira issue I created on 5/7 has not been updated
> and I don't know of any work that has been done.  I sent a message to
> the infrastructure list today asking about the status.
> -Andy
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Andy Kurth <andy_ku...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
>> I created/committed the initial set of CMS files/directories:
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/vcl/site
>> I found 2 sets of instructions on how to do this, each suggests using
>> a different set of template files:
>> http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCMSFAQ
>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html#svn
>> I used the files from the stanbol site as recommended on the CMS FAQ
>> page since the files seemed to be a bit more configured.  The only
>> change I made was to replace "stanbol" with "vcl" wherever it existed.
>> I made a request to infrastructure:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4761
>> -Andy
>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Andy Kurth <andy_ku...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
>>> I agree too.  I believe we can request a new CMS site without
>>> affecting the existing website/Confluence.  The "getting started"
>>> instructions are here:
>>> http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCMSFAQ
>>> I have created a new Jira component called "project website (Apache
>>> CMS)" and an issue to track our own progress and to tag Subversion
>>> commits:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VCL-583
>>> I can work on adding the required layout to our Subversion space and
>>> create the infrastructure Jira request.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Andy
>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Miller, Tony <mill...@ecu.edu> wrote:
>>>> I agree, might as well use what Apache says.  Just to provide 
>>>> alternatives, though, the current name for such things is "static site 
>>>> generator".  Believe it or not, it's become one of the hot topics on many 
>>>> of the web design podcasts and blogs that I follow (perhaps a reaction to 
>>>> "heavy" solutions like WordPress, perhaps a reaction to the current 
>>>> popularity of Github).  Here's a site which lists many such tools:
>>>> http://iwantmyname.com/blog/2011/02/list-static-website-generators.html
>>>> --
>>>> Tony Miller
>>>> Technology Consultant, ITCS, East Carolina University
>>>> mill...@ecu.edu /\ http://blog.ecu.edu/techtips
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Aaron Coburn [mailto:acob...@amherst.edu]
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 2:10 PM
>>>> To: <vcl-u...@incubator.apache.org>
>>>> Cc: <vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: Rework the Apache VCL website?
>>>> On May 4, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Andy Kurth wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Aaron Coburn <acob...@amherst.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> As for the website, I agree that some design work would be really
>>>>>> useful. I am assuming that ASF would provide a hosting arrangement,
>>>>>> i.e. a domain like vcl.apache.org? Would that also include server space 
>>>>>> to run any type of CMS?
>>>>> Yes, ASF hosts all project websites and provides server space.
>>>>> If/when we graduate, the podling website will be moved to
>>>>> vcl.apache.org.  Apache provides a CMS but it is up to the community
>>>>> whether to use it or something else as long as the content is static.
>>>>> More info is here:
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html
>>>>> -and-
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html
>>>> Thanks, I read about Apache's CMS, and I don't see any compelling reason 
>>>> not to use that. It supports both HTML and Markdown formats. Updates are 
>>>> managed by subversion, and it seems like it will be easy to use.
>>>> Aaron Coburn
>>>>>> Confluence is a nice all-in-one package, though if you are
>>>>>> considering a complete overhaul of the site, I could also recommend a
>>>>>> system like Drupal (MySQL + PHP). Drupal has a lot of bells and
>>>>>> whistles that can make for a very nice, highly interactive site. The
>>>>>> downside of drupal is that it is not specifically designed to handle
>>>>>> software documentation. On the other hand, if we only need to serve
>>>>>> static html pages that focus on documentation, etc, I can also
>>>>>> recommend Sphinx. The downside of Sphinx is that it is really best
>>>>>> for Python and C++ projects, and it doesn't support web-based updates
>>>>>> -- it does create excellent sites, though.
>>>>> I also like Drupal but don't think it can be used due to the static
>>>>> requirement.  We actually use this for NCSU's VCL front page.
>>>>> I'm not familiar with Sphinx.  It looks like at least one other
>>>>> project is using Sphinx:
>>>>> http://chemistry.apache.org/python/docs/docs.html
>>>>> -Andy
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Aaron Peeler <fapee...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, I agree the site needs to be updated. I'm fine to move to ASF
>>>>>> CMS, especially if this the future direction.
>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Andy Kurth <andy_ku...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>> The Apache VCL project website (https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL) could
>>>>>>> use some improving.  It is automatically generated from the
>>>>>>> Confluence wiki site 
>>>>>>> (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/Apache+VCL).
>>>>>>>  I'm not sure exactly how this works but some things have never
>>>>>>> worked quite right... small details such as the left nav bar not 
>>>>>>> showing up.
>>>>>>> I'd like to start reworking the site and would like ideas/help from
>>>>>>> anyone interested.  The first step would be to decide on an
>>>>>>> underlying platform/CMS.  I have nothing against Confluence but the
>>>>>>> ASF is moving away from it in favor of the "ASF Content Management
>>>>>>> System".  More information is here:
>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html
>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html
>>>>>>> Tools have been written to assist in migrating from Confluence to
>>>>>>> the ASF CMS.  See the bottom of the wiki page:
>>>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010
>>>>>>> At first glance this seems like a logical path to pursue.  Thoughts?
>>>>>>> -Andy
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Aaron Peeler
>>>>>> Program Manager
>>>>>> Virtual Computing Lab
>>>>>> NC State University
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