Just an update.  We are waiting for the ASF infrastructure group to
set up the CMS.  The Jira issue I created on 5/7 has not been updated
and I don't know of any work that has been done.  I sent a message to
the infrastructure list today asking about the status.


On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Andy Kurth <andy_ku...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
> I created/committed the initial set of CMS files/directories:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/vcl/site
> I found 2 sets of instructions on how to do this, each suggests using
> a different set of template files:
> http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCMSFAQ
> http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html#svn
> I used the files from the stanbol site as recommended on the CMS FAQ
> page since the files seemed to be a bit more configured.  The only
> change I made was to replace "stanbol" with "vcl" wherever it existed.
> I made a request to infrastructure:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4761
> -Andy
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Andy Kurth <andy_ku...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
>> I agree too.  I believe we can request a new CMS site without
>> affecting the existing website/Confluence.  The "getting started"
>> instructions are here:
>> http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCMSFAQ
>> I have created a new Jira component called "project website (Apache
>> CMS)" and an issue to track our own progress and to tag Subversion
>> commits:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VCL-583
>> I can work on adding the required layout to our Subversion space and
>> create the infrastructure Jira request.
>> Thanks,
>> Andy
>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Miller, Tony <mill...@ecu.edu> wrote:
>>> I agree, might as well use what Apache says.  Just to provide alternatives, 
>>> though, the current name for such things is "static site generator".  
>>> Believe it or not, it's become one of the hot topics on many of the web 
>>> design podcasts and blogs that I follow (perhaps a reaction to "heavy" 
>>> solutions like WordPress, perhaps a reaction to the current popularity of 
>>> Github).  Here's a site which lists many such tools:
>>> http://iwantmyname.com/blog/2011/02/list-static-website-generators.html
>>> --
>>> Tony Miller
>>> Technology Consultant, ITCS, East Carolina University
>>> mill...@ecu.edu /\ http://blog.ecu.edu/techtips
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Aaron Coburn [mailto:acob...@amherst.edu]
>>> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 2:10 PM
>>> To: <vcl-u...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> Cc: <vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Rework the Apache VCL website?
>>> On May 4, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Andy Kurth wrote:
>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Aaron Coburn <acob...@amherst.edu> wrote:
>>>>> As for the website, I agree that some design work would be really
>>>>> useful. I am assuming that ASF would provide a hosting arrangement,
>>>>> i.e. a domain like vcl.apache.org? Would that also include server space 
>>>>> to run any type of CMS?
>>>> Yes, ASF hosts all project websites and provides server space.
>>>> If/when we graduate, the podling website will be moved to
>>>> vcl.apache.org.  Apache provides a CMS but it is up to the community
>>>> whether to use it or something else as long as the content is static.
>>>> More info is here:
>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html
>>>> -and-
>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html
>>> Thanks, I read about Apache's CMS, and I don't see any compelling reason 
>>> not to use that. It supports both HTML and Markdown formats. Updates are 
>>> managed by subversion, and it seems like it will be easy to use.
>>> Aaron Coburn
>>>>> Confluence is a nice all-in-one package, though if you are
>>>>> considering a complete overhaul of the site, I could also recommend a
>>>>> system like Drupal (MySQL + PHP). Drupal has a lot of bells and
>>>>> whistles that can make for a very nice, highly interactive site. The
>>>>> downside of drupal is that it is not specifically designed to handle
>>>>> software documentation. On the other hand, if we only need to serve
>>>>> static html pages that focus on documentation, etc, I can also
>>>>> recommend Sphinx. The downside of Sphinx is that it is really best
>>>>> for Python and C++ projects, and it doesn't support web-based updates
>>>>> -- it does create excellent sites, though.
>>>> I also like Drupal but don't think it can be used due to the static
>>>> requirement.  We actually use this for NCSU's VCL front page.
>>>> I'm not familiar with Sphinx.  It looks like at least one other
>>>> project is using Sphinx:
>>>> http://chemistry.apache.org/python/docs/docs.html
>>>> -Andy
>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Aaron Peeler <fapee...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
>>>>> Yes, I agree the site needs to be updated. I'm fine to move to ASF
>>>>> CMS, especially if this the future direction.
>>>>> Aaron
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Andy Kurth <andy_ku...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> The Apache VCL project website (https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL) could
>>>>>> use some improving.  It is automatically generated from the
>>>>>> Confluence wiki site 
>>>>>> (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/Apache+VCL).
>>>>>>  I'm not sure exactly how this works but some things have never
>>>>>> worked quite right... small details such as the left nav bar not showing 
>>>>>> up.
>>>>>> I'd like to start reworking the site and would like ideas/help from
>>>>>> anyone interested.  The first step would be to decide on an
>>>>>> underlying platform/CMS.  I have nothing against Confluence but the
>>>>>> ASF is moving away from it in favor of the "ASF Content Management
>>>>>> System".  More information is here:
>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html
>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html
>>>>>> Tools have been written to assist in migrating from Confluence to
>>>>>> the ASF CMS.  See the bottom of the wiki page:
>>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010
>>>>>> At first glance this seems like a logical path to pursue.  Thoughts?
>>>>>> -Andy
>>>>> --
>>>>> Aaron Peeler
>>>>> Program Manager
>>>>> Virtual Computing Lab
>>>>> NC State University
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