-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I think this is a good direction as well.
Andy - thanks for moving it forward. Josh On Monday, May 07, 2012 2:17:43 PM Andy Kurth wrote: > I agree too. I believe we can request a new CMS site without > affecting the existing website/Confluence. The "getting started" > instructions are here: > http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCMSFAQ > > I have created a new Jira component called "project website (Apache > CMS)" and an issue to track our own progress and to tag Subversion > commits: > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VCL-583 > > I can work on adding the required layout to our Subversion space and > create the infrastructure Jira request. > > Thanks, > Andy > > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Miller, Tony <mill...@ecu.edu> wrote: > > I agree, might as well use what Apache says. Just to provide > > alternatives, though, the current name for such things is "static site > > generator". Believe it or not, it's become one of the hot topics on > > many of the web design podcasts and blogs that I follow (perhaps a > > reaction to "heavy" solutions like WordPress, perhaps a reaction to the > > current popularity of Github). Here's a site which lists many such > > tools: > > > > http://iwantmyname.com/blog/2011/02/list-static-website-generators.html > > > > > > -- > > Tony Miller > > Technology Consultant, ITCS, East Carolina University > > mill...@ecu.edu /\ http://blog.ecu.edu/techtips > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Aaron Coburn [mailto:acob...@amherst.edu] > > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 2:10 PM > > To: <vcl-u...@incubator.apache.org> > > Cc: <firstname.lastname@example.org> > > Subject: Re: Rework the Apache VCL website? > > > > On May 4, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Andy Kurth wrote: > >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Aaron Coburn <acob...@amherst.edu> wrote: > >>> As for the website, I agree that some design work would be really > >>> useful. I am assuming that ASF would provide a hosting arrangement, > >>> i.e. a domain like vcl.apache.org? Would that also include server > >>> space to run any type of CMS?>> > >> Yes, ASF hosts all project websites and provides server space. > >> If/when we graduate, the podling website will be moved to > >> vcl.apache.org. Apache provides a CMS but it is up to the community > >> whether to use it or something else as long as the content is static. > >> More info is here: > >> http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html > >> -and- > >> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html > > > > Thanks, I read about Apache's CMS, and I don't see any compelling reason > > not to use that. It supports both HTML and Markdown formats. Updates > > are managed by subversion, and it seems like it will be easy to use. > > > > Aaron Coburn > > > >>> Confluence is a nice all-in-one package, though if you are > >>> considering a complete overhaul of the site, I could also recommend > >>> a > >>> system like Drupal (MySQL + PHP). Drupal has a lot of bells and > >>> whistles that can make for a very nice, highly interactive site. The > >>> downside of drupal is that it is not specifically designed to handle > >>> software documentation. On the other hand, if we only need to serve > >>> static html pages that focus on documentation, etc, I can also > >>> recommend Sphinx. The downside of Sphinx is that it is really best > >>> for Python and C++ projects, and it doesn't support web-based > >>> updates > >>> -- it does create excellent sites, though. > >> > >> I also like Drupal but don't think it can be used due to the static > >> requirement. We actually use this for NCSU's VCL front page. > >> > >> I'm not familiar with Sphinx. It looks like at least one other > >> project is using Sphinx: > >> http://chemistry.apache.org/python/docs/docs.html > >> > >> -Andy > >> > >> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Aaron Peeler <fapee...@ncsu.edu> wrote: > >>> Yes, I agree the site needs to be updated. I'm fine to move to ASF > >>> CMS, especially if this the future direction. > >>> > >>> Aaron > >>> > >>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Andy Kurth <andy_ku...@ncsu.edu> wrote: > >>>> The Apache VCL project website (https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL) > >>>> could > >>>> use some improving. It is automatically generated from the > >>>> Confluence wiki site > >>>> (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/Apache+VCL). I'm > >>>> not sure exactly how this works but some things have never worked > >>>> quite right... small details such as the left nav bar not showing > >>>> up. > >>>> > >>>> I'd like to start reworking the site and would like ideas/help > >>>> from > >>>> anyone interested. The first step would be to decide on an > >>>> underlying platform/CMS. I have nothing against Confluence but > >>>> the > >>>> ASF is moving away from it in favor of the "ASF Content Management > >>>> System". More information is here: > >>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html > >>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html > >>>> > >>>> Tools have been written to assist in migrating from Confluence to > >>>> the ASF CMS. See the bottom of the wiki page: > >>>> http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010 > >>>> > >>>> At first glance this seems like a logical path to pursue. > >>>> Thoughts? > >>>> > >>>> -Andy > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Aaron Peeler > >>> Program Manager > >>> Virtual Computing Lab > >>> NC State University > >>> > >>> All electronic mail messages in connection with State business which > >>> are sent to or received by this account are subject to the NC Public > >>> Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. - -- - ------------------------------- Josh Thompson VCL Developer North Carolina State University my GPG/PGP key can be found at pgp.mit.edu All electronic mail messages in connection with State business which are sent to or received by this account are subject to the NC Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk+oFCQACgkQV/LQcNdtPQNRSACfft+0VqstxfjzjzrcLzxS1Izy 49gAn0sELWqXXicpDc2C0VTph6V7okbk =wHjL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----