I agree too. I believe we can request a new CMS site without affecting the existing website/Confluence. The "getting started" instructions are here: http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCMSFAQ
I have created a new Jira component called "project website (Apache CMS)" and an issue to track our own progress and to tag Subversion commits: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VCL-583 I can work on adding the required layout to our Subversion space and create the infrastructure Jira request. Thanks, Andy On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Miller, Tony <mill...@ecu.edu> wrote: > I agree, might as well use what Apache says. Just to provide alternatives, > though, the current name for such things is "static site generator". Believe > it or not, it's become one of the hot topics on many of the web design > podcasts and blogs that I follow (perhaps a reaction to "heavy" solutions > like WordPress, perhaps a reaction to the current popularity of Github). > Here's a site which lists many such tools: > > http://iwantmyname.com/blog/2011/02/list-static-website-generators.html > > > -- > Tony Miller > Technology Consultant, ITCS, East Carolina University > mill...@ecu.edu /\ http://blog.ecu.edu/techtips > > -----Original Message----- > From: Aaron Coburn [mailto:acob...@amherst.edu] > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 2:10 PM > To: <vcl-u...@incubator.apache.org> > Cc: <vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org> > Subject: Re: Rework the Apache VCL website? > > > On May 4, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Andy Kurth wrote: > >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Aaron Coburn <acob...@amherst.edu> wrote: >>> As for the website, I agree that some design work would be really >>> useful. I am assuming that ASF would provide a hosting arrangement, >>> i.e. a domain like vcl.apache.org? Would that also include server space to >>> run any type of CMS? >> >> Yes, ASF hosts all project websites and provides server space. >> If/when we graduate, the podling website will be moved to >> vcl.apache.org. Apache provides a CMS but it is up to the community >> whether to use it or something else as long as the content is static. >> More info is here: >> http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html >> -and- >> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html > > Thanks, I read about Apache's CMS, and I don't see any compelling reason not > to use that. It supports both HTML and Markdown formats. Updates are managed > by subversion, and it seems like it will be easy to use. > > Aaron Coburn > > > >>> Confluence is a nice all-in-one package, though if you are >>> considering a complete overhaul of the site, I could also recommend a >>> system like Drupal (MySQL + PHP). Drupal has a lot of bells and >>> whistles that can make for a very nice, highly interactive site. The >>> downside of drupal is that it is not specifically designed to handle >>> software documentation. On the other hand, if we only need to serve >>> static html pages that focus on documentation, etc, I can also >>> recommend Sphinx. The downside of Sphinx is that it is really best >>> for Python and C++ projects, and it doesn't support web-based updates >>> -- it does create excellent sites, though. >> >> I also like Drupal but don't think it can be used due to the static >> requirement. We actually use this for NCSU's VCL front page. >> >> I'm not familiar with Sphinx. It looks like at least one other >> project is using Sphinx: >> http://chemistry.apache.org/python/docs/docs.html >> >> -Andy >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Aaron Peeler <fapee...@ncsu.edu> wrote: >>> Yes, I agree the site needs to be updated. I'm fine to move to ASF >>> CMS, especially if this the future direction. >>> >>> Aaron >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Andy Kurth <andy_ku...@ncsu.edu> wrote: >>>> The Apache VCL project website (https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL) could >>>> use some improving. It is automatically generated from the >>>> Confluence wiki site >>>> (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/Apache+VCL). >>>> I'm not sure exactly how this works but some things have never >>>> worked quite right... small details such as the left nav bar not showing >>>> up. >>>> >>>> I'd like to start reworking the site and would like ideas/help from >>>> anyone interested. The first step would be to decide on an >>>> underlying platform/CMS. I have nothing against Confluence but the >>>> ASF is moving away from it in favor of the "ASF Content Management >>>> System". More information is here: >>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html >>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html >>>> >>>> Tools have been written to assist in migrating from Confluence to >>>> the ASF CMS. See the bottom of the wiki page: >>>> http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010 >>>> >>>> At first glance this seems like a logical path to pursue. Thoughts? >>>> >>>> -Andy >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Aaron Peeler >>> Program Manager >>> Virtual Computing Lab >>> NC State University >>> >>> All electronic mail messages in connection with State business which >>> are sent to or received by this account are subject to the NC Public >>> Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. >
