I agree too.  I believe we can request a new CMS site without
affecting the existing website/Confluence.  The "getting started"
instructions are here:

I have created a new Jira component called "project website (Apache
CMS)" and an issue to track our own progress and to tag Subversion

I can work on adding the required layout to our Subversion space and
create the infrastructure Jira request.


On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Miller, Tony <mill...@ecu.edu> wrote:
> I agree, might as well use what Apache says.  Just to provide alternatives, 
> though, the current name for such things is "static site generator".  Believe 
> it or not, it's become one of the hot topics on many of the web design 
> podcasts and blogs that I follow (perhaps a reaction to "heavy" solutions 
> like WordPress, perhaps a reaction to the current popularity of Github).  
> Here's a site which lists many such tools:
> http://iwantmyname.com/blog/2011/02/list-static-website-generators.html
> --
> Tony Miller
> Technology Consultant, ITCS, East Carolina University
> mill...@ecu.edu /\ http://blog.ecu.edu/techtips
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Coburn [mailto:acob...@amherst.edu]
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 2:10 PM
> To: <vcl-u...@incubator.apache.org>
> Cc: <vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Rework the Apache VCL website?
> On May 4, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Andy Kurth wrote:
>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Aaron Coburn <acob...@amherst.edu> wrote:
>>> As for the website, I agree that some design work would be really
>>> useful. I am assuming that ASF would provide a hosting arrangement,
>>> i.e. a domain like vcl.apache.org? Would that also include server space to 
>>> run any type of CMS?
>> Yes, ASF hosts all project websites and provides server space.
>> If/when we graduate, the podling website will be moved to
>> vcl.apache.org.  Apache provides a CMS but it is up to the community
>> whether to use it or something else as long as the content is static.
>> More info is here:
>> http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html
>> -and-
>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html
> Thanks, I read about Apache's CMS, and I don't see any compelling reason not 
> to use that. It supports both HTML and Markdown formats. Updates are managed 
> by subversion, and it seems like it will be easy to use.
> Aaron Coburn
>>> Confluence is a nice all-in-one package, though if you are
>>> considering a complete overhaul of the site, I could also recommend a
>>> system like Drupal (MySQL + PHP). Drupal has a lot of bells and
>>> whistles that can make for a very nice, highly interactive site. The
>>> downside of drupal is that it is not specifically designed to handle
>>> software documentation. On the other hand, if we only need to serve
>>> static html pages that focus on documentation, etc, I can also
>>> recommend Sphinx. The downside of Sphinx is that it is really best
>>> for Python and C++ projects, and it doesn't support web-based updates
>>> -- it does create excellent sites, though.
>> I also like Drupal but don't think it can be used due to the static
>> requirement.  We actually use this for NCSU's VCL front page.
>> I'm not familiar with Sphinx.  It looks like at least one other
>> project is using Sphinx:
>> http://chemistry.apache.org/python/docs/docs.html
>> -Andy
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Aaron Peeler <fapee...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
>>> Yes, I agree the site needs to be updated. I'm fine to move to ASF
>>> CMS, especially if this the future direction.
>>> Aaron
>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Andy Kurth <andy_ku...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
>>>> The Apache VCL project website (https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL) could
>>>> use some improving.  It is automatically generated from the
>>>> Confluence wiki site 
>>>> (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/Apache+VCL).
>>>>  I'm not sure exactly how this works but some things have never
>>>> worked quite right... small details such as the left nav bar not showing 
>>>> up.
>>>> I'd like to start reworking the site and would like ideas/help from
>>>> anyone interested.  The first step would be to decide on an
>>>> underlying platform/CMS.  I have nothing against Confluence but the
>>>> ASF is moving away from it in favor of the "ASF Content Management
>>>> System".  More information is here:
>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html
>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html
>>>> Tools have been written to assist in migrating from Confluence to
>>>> the ASF CMS.  See the bottom of the wiki page:
>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010
>>>> At first glance this seems like a logical path to pursue.  Thoughts?
>>>> -Andy
>>> --
>>> Aaron Peeler
>>> Program Manager
>>> Virtual Computing Lab
>>> NC State University
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