Title: RE: New certification
Lynn....to renew a CRNI, per the INS standards....40 CEUS must be obtained in a 3 year period  30 of these CEUS MUST be obtained by physically attending a national INS conference.  The CEUS available through AVA that were recognized by INS, in the January conference were a total of five, and those were only awarded with attendance to the entire conference. Additionally, in the Southeast area of the United States, most chapters only meet every OTHER month and  at the most offer 1-2 CEUS.
 
I must agree to disagree with you about your opinion of certification...it is not to protect the public, it is, per ANCC (American Nurses' Credentialing Center...the same folks that do Magnet Hospital designation) definition:  "to promote excellence in nursing and healthcare globally through credentialling programs".
 
As a director of a program that support 1000 beds and places over 2500 PICCs per year....I want to support my nurses in reaching their personal and professional goals of advanced knowledge and the some kind of certification that recognizes their excellence.  My hope is that the current environment will seize this opportunity to perhaps reboot their vision and some of their mission to include removing some of the barriers currently in place.
 
All this discussion on this Listserv is extremely healthy... and while it may feel prickly.....it makes us think, reflect, and challange ourselves to obtain the brightest future for nursing.

[Henderson, Karin]  -----Original Message-----
From: Lynn Hadaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 11:07 AM
To: Henderson, Karin; Chris Cavanaugh; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New certification

I think you are overlooking the many avenues that are available to obtain recert units for the CRNI. Nurses can obtain these units by going to a local INS chapter meeting, by attending an AVA conference, etc.

I can also see many, many differences between the CCRN and CRNI. Other than AVA and LITE, there are no other conferences that address the content areas of the CRNI exam. AVA and LITE can apply to INCC for a certain number of recert units to be earned by attending those conferences. While some may regard the INCC position on this issue to be restrictive of nurses, we must remember that the mission of any certification board is not for the benefit of the profession. There mission is for the protection of the public. I think if you look at some of the other smaller certifications you will find a similar approach. Also INCC has now meet the criteria from the American Board of Nursing Certifications. You can read more about this stringent process at www.nursingcertification.org. Lynn

At 3:58 PM -0400 9/21/06, Henderson, Karin wrote:
Not having a CRNI myself...my certification is as a nurse practitioner and CCRN...certification speaks volumes to the community and support professional nursing practice.  My experience as a director of an IV Nursing Department and PICC program that support 1000 beds is...many many IV nurses would LOVE to obtain certification, HOWEVER, the stringent requirements from INS that most of the CEUs be obtained ONLY by attending one of their national meetings is absolutely prohibitive to most nurses...hospitals have cut education budgets and time off for travel to far away conferences is less than optimal for most.
 
As a CCRN, a critical care credential that represents the LARGEST group of certified nurses...my suggestion is that INS or ANY organization seeking to offer certification needs to look at the manner in which AACN requires continuing education.  It is NOT necessary to attend their exclusive meetings to recertify...this is a HUGE roadblock to the many fine practitioners in IV nursing who wish certification.  IF AVA offers a national certification that is not so prohibitive to its members...I predict that it will be THE certification of choice for this specialty.  As a manager of a large team, I see the struggles that my CRNIs have every time they need to recertifiy...trying to get to that exclusive conference.....just thoughts from another certified nurse.
 
Karin Henderson, RN, MSN, CCRN, CS-GNP
Director of IV Services/PICC Program
Moses Cone Health System
Greensboro, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Chris Cavanaugh
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New certification

Hi gang-I was hoping to see some discussion regarding this on the list, but have not so I thought I would get the pot stirred upŠAVA announced at the Town Hall meeting that they are working on a new certification, one that may have 2 levels, one for licensed (MDs and RNs) and one for unlicensed (manufacturers, sales reps).  What do people think about this?  Is it a duplication of efforts?  Will those that have a CRNI go ahead for this certification also?  My experience has been that so few people know what a CRNI is, that yet another certification in infusion may confuse them.  Are there any other specialties that have more than one certification?  I could not think of any.  I am interested in hearing what group has to say.  Thanks
 
Chris Cavanaugh, CRNI
3606 Molona Dr.
Orlando, FL 32837
407-928-9297
 


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Lynn Hadaway, M.Ed., RNC, CRNI
Lynn Hadaway Associates, Inc.
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