I am an infusion nurse as well as a vascular nurse. I got my crni last yr and 
while I feel like the material studied was very  enriching from an infusion 
standpoint it did not inform me much about my passion, vascular access. That's 
why i have attended ava conferences and not ins. Now I will have to attend INS 
just to keep up my cert. If I would have had a choice between CRNI cert and a 
vascular cert, i would have chosen the vascular cert.

Nick

>>> "Chris Cavanaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 09/22/06 4:56 PM >>>
Well, if the board does not want to break away from INS and separate AVA,
then they may want to reconsider this certification, because that is EXACTLY
what it will do.  INS will pull their authorization of CRNI recert units and
see this as adversarial.  If they want to work WITH INS, then they should
work to make the CRNI certification one, unified for all types of infusion
nurses, and expand the options for recertification as the nurses on this
list have suggested.  The problem with the CRNI is that you HAVE to get some
recert units at their conference, so once every 3 yrs, you MUST attend a
conference, even if you get some from other places, as you have stated.
There is a limit to how many recert units you can get outside of the
conference. 

 

Chris Cavanaugh, CRNI

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From: Lynn Hadaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 11:15 AM
To: Chris Cavanaugh; 'Denise Macklin'; 'venous'
Subject: RE: New certification

 

Chris,

 

I must protest your impression that "the board sees it as a way to break
away from INS". I am not a board member of AVA now but was a board member
for about 5 years. Those years were during the time when we diligently
worked to bring down the barriers between INS and AVA. These organizations
are *****not***** in conflict or competition with each other. Please get
that idea out of your head and your language. We do not want to return to
the old days. We worked too hard to get past that point.

 

I now state, as I always have, that there is a need for both organizations.
The membership, mission, goals, etc for each organization are quite
different. Please take the time to understand those differences and support
both or the one that is most applicable to your practice. Lynn

 

 

At 6:19 PM -0400 9/21/06, Chris Cavanaugh wrote:

Denise,

I am very well aware that the AVA certification is in its infancy,  however,
I think it is a good idea now to start a dialog among IV nurses regarding
this certification, if it is wanted, needed, etc.  I realize that the board
sees it as a way to break away from INS, make money, differentiate nurses
that place lines from nurses that do infusions, etc.  I am looking to start
a discussion among IV nurses, AVA and non AVA members, as to the need for
this, whether or not it is a good idea, etc.  There may be some nurses who
will want both certifications, but there may also be some who feel it is
cost prohibitive,  or too difficult to recertify for two, or who feel two
would be confusing to the general medical community.  For instance, there
are many specialties in critical care-neonatal, pediatric, surgical ,
cardiac, medical-but just one, all encompassing CCRN, and that is a
designation well known in the medical community.   Perhaps we should be
considering working with INS to make the CRNI more all encompassing�.just
some thoughts for discussion.  As I said, I am curious as to what the
general IV community thinks about the issue.

 

Chris Cavanaugh, CRNI


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From: Denise Macklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 5:51 PM
To: Chris Cavanaugh; venous
Subject: Re: New certification

 

The AVA certification process is in its infancy.  However, the basic exam
will be offered to everyone nurses, as well as sales reps.  The advanced
exam (level 2) will be offered to RN's and MD's only.  The CRNI focuses
mainly on the infusion aspect of IV therapy. The core includes medications
(antibiotics and Chemo) blood and blood components etc.  The AVA
certification will focus on Vascular Access.  It will be some time before
the AVA certification process will be complete.  However, it will offer a
different certification than currently available with CRNI.  I would think
that there will be nurses who hold both certifications in the future.  But
for sure will choose one that best reflects their practice needs. 

 

Denise Macklin

----- Original Message -----

From:  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Chris Cavanaugh

To:  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:39 PM

Subject: New certification

 

Hi gang-I was hoping to see some discussion regarding this on the list, but
have not so I thought I would get the pot stirred up�AVA announced at the
Town Hall meeting that they are working on a new certification, one that may
have 2 levels, one for licensed (MDs and RNs) and one for unlicensed
(manufacturers, sales reps).  What do people think about this?  Is it a
duplication of efforts?  Will those that have a CRNI go ahead for this
certification also?  My experience has been that so few people know what a
CRNI is, that yet another certification in infusion may confuse them.  Are
there any other specialties that have more than one certification?  I could
not think of any.  I am interested in hearing what group has to say.  Thanks

 

Chris Cavanaugh, CRNI

3606 Molona Dr.

Orlando, FL 32837

407-928-9297

 

 

 

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