"The definition of art is controversial
in contemporary philosophy. Whether art can be defined has also been a matter
of controversy. The philosophical usefulness of a definition of art has also
been debated. Contemporary definitions are of two main sorts. One distinctively
modern, conventionalist, sort of definition focuses on art's institutional
features, emphasizing the way art changes over time, modern works that appear
to break radically with all traditional art, and the relational properties
of artworks that depend on works' relations to art history, art genres, etc.
The less conventionalist sort of contemporary definition makes use of a broader,
more traditional concept of aesthetic properties that includes more than art-relational
ones, and focuses on art's pan-cultural and trans-historical characteristics.
>From the Standard Encyclopedia of Philosophy.
“It is not at all clear that
these words – ‘What is art?’ – express anything like a single question, to
which competing answers are given, or whether philosophers proposing answers
are even engaged in the same debate…. The sheer variety of proposed definitions
should give us pause. One cannot help wondering whether there is any sense
in which they are attempts to … clarify the same cultural practices, or address
the same issue.”
From the Standard Encyclopedia
of Philosophy.
In other words, what I classify
as art, when compared to what you classify as art can be totally different,
while both can still be classified as ART !
We had a thread about this some
years back with several VFB members joining the discussion. Is fly tying
an art or simply a craft. Below are some of the comments.
Re: [VFB] new super realistic fly
2002/04/07 I would urge all fly tyers to take a look at what can be achieved. Vlad has demonstrated that fly tying (as shown on his mosquito web page) can transcend craft and achieve the status of fine art. Thank you Vlad for sharing your art with us. Ed At 01:50 PM 4/6/02, you wrote: Hi -- Ed Engelman/Sue Atkinson
RE: [VFB] new super realistic fly
2002/04/07 Dear Listers I want to say thanks for your kind words and interest to this my fly. Super realistic flies have no the practical purpose like almost all kinds of fine art, they only can give few minutes of pleasure looking at them (or many week while tying them) and I very proud that you like -- Vlad Markov
Have A Good Day.
JIMMY D
Jim Phillips wrote:
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: for the list.....
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 23:26:01 -0600
Guys, just so we're clear..........the "NO recipes Fly Swap" is NOT something that is about flies for fishing............i got one reply already from someone who seems to think that flies, "that work for me" is what i'm looking for.......usually that is what we swap...........but this time that is NOT what i'm looking for. This swap is STRICKTLY for "Artistic" flies that would be tyed for the wall as ART. Flies "should" be tyed on rather large blind eye hooks using gut eyes. Materials are exotic feathers, fancy beads and usually silk thread. I know that many of my fellow tyers are able to tie "mountable" fishing flys but these super flys are not what is called Artistic (although they are beautiful). Please check my website for hints and also the web for artistic flys for some more ideas. Remember - only six tyers - first come first in.
Thankx! mark![]()
