What Don said!!!

Don accept my ass on FB..........

2010/1/26 Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com>

>  Nev.,
> Someone has to host and moderate those type forums, right?  The VFB used to
> have a chat-room, and that was fun when people participated.  What would it
> take, and from whom, to implement this approach?
>
> I, for one, don't see a problem with this site and the way it works.
> Again, the ease of posting photos is a huge asset if it is used.
>
> Real quick- on my soap-box, and off again.
>
> I've trained draftsmen, designers, engineers, and plant operators for near
> 30 years- in seminar-style environments and 1-on-one.
>
> I too have noticed a big difference in the attitudes of students, from the
> old hands to the new hands.  The old hands are used to participating and
> putting something in to get something out.
>
> I *won't *say this is catagorically true, but the new generation seems to
> want to sit there and have everything delivered (ready to microwave in 20
> seconds to eat, so to speak).   I know this from my training seminars of
> operators, comparing the seminars of 20 years ago to those of today, then
> comparing the older ones in the seminars to the newer ones.  So much is
> taken for granted these days.
>
> Is this a social phenominon brought on by quick-sell no-effort promotional
> tactics, and the fast-access/results internet?  It seems flyfishermen would
> NOT fit this bill, as they would go out and buy flies, not tie them, if they
> were 'lazy', but they are not.
>
> Off my box again.
>
> DonO
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>   *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:40 PM
> *Subject:* [VFB] VFB Then & Now -Suggestion
>
> David:
>
>
>
> This is a quote taken directly from my Jan 2010 newsletter sent to my
> fellow club members
>
>
>
> *"I returned from the United Kingdom just three days ago after my longest
> ever stay in the UK since coming to Canada in 1972.  Every time that I go
> back, I find things just that little bit different.  It is no longer the
> same country that I left all those years ago, but then again, neither is the
> Canada that I returned to the same as the one I came to in 1972. Canada has
> become more urbanized over the years.  While in the UK, I read a book by
> W.D. Wetherell entitled “North of Now” that discusses country life in New
> Hampshire and Vermont, and the fact that country life is changing and in
> many cases disappearing. The quotation  “Change is inevitable. Change is
> Constant” is attributed to Benjamin Disraeli and is so true.  I believe
> that in order to continue as a strong and respected club, the Totem
> Flyfishers must also change, but change is stressful and tends to invoke
> resistance.  Traditions are important and comfortable, so how does one
> balance retaining important traditions with change? Another quote, this
> time by Niccolo Machiavelli states; “Whosoever desires constant success must
> change his conduct with the times.”  I believe that we must adapt with the
> times in order to attract new and younger members.  In my opinion, the
> present average age of members is too great and we must bring in new and if
> possible younger persons in order to have a group of younger like-minded
> members to pass the club on to.  I am pleased to say that I believe that
> we are just beginning to make a little progress in this area and I ask each
> of you to diligently look out for potential new members as we go forward
> into 2010. "*
>
>
>
>
>
> So, in answer to your question, I think that the VFB must change in order
> to attract more members. Although I prefer the e-mail list, I suggest that
> we TRY the forum approach. Just take a look at this
> http://speypages.com/speyclave/ and look at the number of posts and
> threads.  http://www.flybc.ca is similar.
>
>
> That's my 2 cents worth.
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> Greater Vancouver,
> B.C. Canada
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *David Colyn
> *Sent:* January 26, 2010 12:04 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] VFB Then & Now
>
>  Well said Nev.
>
> Have any solution to the well defined problem??
>
> I sure dont.............
>
>
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