Thanks for the update..prayers for you and she this morning as well as for all the other friends on this group. Joyce
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Chuck Alexander < [email protected]> wrote: > Joyce: Thanks a lot. And yeah, as soon as she woke up at 4:30am this > morning in severe pain, and couldn’t get a deep breath, we didn’t worry > about driving to the ER, but called 911 and got her there in an Ambulance. > She is feeling a little better tonight. She has a great doc who even though > we may not see her but once a day, keeps in touch with the nurses station > all the time, cause she put my wife on new meds all day, as well as > ordering new X-Rays, blood tests etc. My wife has been coughing up little > specks of blood and that scared me to death, but they are telling us that > that is a GOOD sign because it needs to get all that out of her lungs, > which is why her doc started ordering breathing treatments 2-3 times a day > now. To get that stuff coughed up, and to ward off pneumonia even though it > hurts really bad to cough. And the nurse my wife has tonight just got over > this SAME thing herself and in fact, JUST came back to work a week or two > ago, and she said that YES. it hurts BADDDDD. And she said that too, that > it has been a long road to total recovery. I’m just glad she had a doc and > nurses who are caring, and take time to explain what’s going on, and just > seem to genuinely care in general. Thanks a LOT for all the info. Many ppl > don’t want to hear all the ‘gory details” but we are just the opposite. We > like to know what we might expect both good and/or bad. Thanks again, Chuck > > > *From:* Joyce M Westphal <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2013 8:11 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Question for everybody about blood clots?? > > I forgot to mention, with regard to the pain. You will get an idea of > what hypoxic pain is like, for that is what the pain from blood clots is, > pain that blocks oxygen to areas of the lungs, if you will tie a string > tightly around your finger and see how painful it is as your finger turns > blue. Interestingly, one of the methods of torture during the inquisition > was to place tourniquets on the limbs and watch the victim suffer. When we > know that we will have to use a tourniquet on a limb for foot surgery, we > place the patient under general anesthesia because hypoxic pain is very > severe. Even under an anesthetic, after about 1/2 hour with the > tourniquet, the blood pressure begins to rise and Fentanyl, our most > reliable and potent adjunct, doesn't really control the response after 1-2 > hours. So yes, the pain is severe, but she must note whether the pain > areas or quality of pain changes as well..in short, does she have sudden > increase in, or a much more intense pain or a new area that suddenly or > even gradually becomes more painful. Hope this helps and prayers continue. > Recovery is very possible, but long and painful. Joyce > > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Joyce M Westphal <[email protected]>wrote: > >> My brother in law suffered from them for almost 3 months, As previously >> stated, the coumadin only prevents new ones from forming, the old ones have >> to slowly dissolve by themselves. Watch her carefully, however. If she >> suddenly has a marked increase in pain or shortness of breath, get her to >> the ER right away as sometimes a clot can move and block a new and more >> important area of the lung or heart. >> Having said that, and not to scare you, but our anesthesiologist >> simply bumped his shin on a bed at home, a small bruise, he thought *(and >> remember, he's an MD) . He ended up with full blown septecemia after a >> pneumonia, respiratory distress syndrome, then into total organ shut down, >> dialysis to try and save his kidneys and ICU intubated for a week, in ICU, >> then Intermediate care for another two weeks and it has taken him six >> months to even begin to feel better. Incredibly, he did survive, thanks to >> modern medicine and great doctors. So, as previously stated, watch her >> carefully and if you have any concerns, don't be afraid to go back to the >> ER and demand they take another look. She should have another followup >> X-ray in about 2 weeks. Joyce >> >> >> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 5:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Chuck, Clots in the lungs can be very painful and the pain can last for >>> a few days. Even though she is being treated, the clots are still there, >>> they just don't go away overnite. The coumadin just prevents more clots to >>> form, it is up to the body's own defenseses to get rid of the clot. And >>> that can take quite some time. So it is a long process to recover from... >>> >>> Ron >>> ---- Chuck Alexander <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Folks: Here’s the situation on my wife. The doc came in just a little >>> bit ago and said the X-Rays etc showed that the blood clot(s) had evidently >>> not completely dissolved and passed from the other day. She had told us >>> outright the other day that since my wife’s new to her job and has no >>> insurance, that she was sending her home a day or two earlier than had she >>> had good insurance. Ain’t that how it goes??? Anyway, to quote my wife >>> this morning “This is more painful than having a baby”. And it’s going to >>> get worse before it gets better according to the doc because they are >>> having to give her breathing treatments, to ward off pneumonia, because she >>> tries to hold back the coughing and deep breathing because it hurts a lot >>> worse to breath deeply or to cough. But, the doc says that she MUST cough >>> to get the lungs clear both of the clots and to stop pneumonia. They now >>> have her in dilaudid (sp) for pain. >>> > >>> > Now, my question for everybody is this. Or at least to anybody who may >>> have ever had a blood clot in their lungs. Are blood clots REALLY that >>> painful??? I mean, I know they are, cause my wife has a high threshold for >>> pain, but is the doc being totally honest in that THAT is what is causing >>> THAT much pain??? The doc says that THAT much severe pain is “normal” in >>> having and/or getting rid of blood clots. Is the doc being totally >>> honest??? If so, how long should the pain last from the onset of >>> treatment??? I know everybody is different, and the number, size, and >>> location of the clots all play into it, but this has me worried that the >>> doc isn’t being totally honest about this??? Thanks for ANY answers in >>> advance. 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