Chuck, you are right..let it go and cut your losses.  Bummer that.  I think
a nice new pickup would be a great choice considering how you love to
fish.  Joyce

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Chuck Alexander <
[email protected]> wrote:

>   BTW. We did go to the garage and take off my brand new $200 Curt
> trailer hitch and plug and play wiring harness that was NOT on the car when
> I bought it LOL..Maybe I can get $100 for it, unless I buy another
> “Cruiser” to mount it to.  Chuck
>
>  *From:* Chuck Alexander <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 12:32 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] OFF TOPIC. My Baby got crashed into by a deer
>
>   Joyce: Thanks. We do in fact have one nearby as I went to that same
> community college for welding back in the early ‘80’s, and if I had had the
> car paid off that’s exactly what I would have done. Problem now is the
> state and red tape. There is only three (and none are close by) state
> inspectors who can inspect the car and re-issue a  “totalled title” or
> whatever exactly it’s called, and I could take a $3300 settlement (but I
> still owe $4700), then I could have the car  back, then pay the college for
> all the parts (about $1000-1500 I suspect), let them repair it, but here it
> the “hitch”.
>
> Then, after all that time, money, effort, there is no guarantee that the
> inspector will issue a new title and eve if he did, the state will NOT
> allow you to buy full coverage insurance on a previously “totalled” car,
> which my bank would still require as I’d still owe them the difference
> between the $3300 and the $4700 payoff, and I talked to them and they won’t
> do it. But, they did tell me they are going to accept the $4300 the
> insurance company as “paid in full” and also give us a loan at a cheaper
> rate on another car. So, it looks like a triple “catch 22”, so I guess
> we’ll have to just “cut our loses” and get another car. maybe I can find a
> club cab pick em up truck I really did want when I bout the car.. That
> would be the only “silver lining” I think. Thanks for bringing this up
> though, because like I said, had it been paid off, it would be a great idea
> and somebody else here might find themselves in a similar situation
> sometime, Chuck
>
>
>  *From:* Joyce M Westphal <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:42 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] OFF TOPIC. My Baby got crashed into by a deer
>
>  Chuck, regarding your deer smashed car, as new as it is, also check if
> you have a state college with an autobody class in your area. Very often
> students will rebuild your car if you pay parts and the small cost of the
> class tuition,  Better yet, you can see if they have a repair your own car
> class at the college/university.  This is what my sister and I did when the
> deer smashed her car. The cost for "senior" students here in a once a week
> after hours class was 30 dollars tuition and a 1 time fee of  100 dollars
> for their state of the art paint booth. We have restored her 1959 IH truck
> and my 1982 Datsun diesel by doing it ourselves. The instructors were
> excellent and the cost was minimal..mostly time and, of course, the paint
> which is pricey.  It tooks us several years to do both vehicles (we did
> her  car, her truck and my truck first, and finished up repairing a bad
> bondo job on her current car fender that we recognized after she had her
> used car for several years. If you do it yourself, you will know it is done
> right. Buy it back if you can and fix it yourself if you can..it was a fun
> and rewarding expeirence.  Just a thought.
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Joyce M Westphal <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Chuck, may I suggest that you find another body shop and try to get a bid
>> for them to fix it with second hand parts. I did that with my VW and drove
>> it for  7 more years and the cost was very minimal. I talked with my
>> insurance company (State Farm) and they were very willing to do this rather
>> than total the car. The cost was about 1/3 what the new parts and labor
>> would have cost  and the labor was minimal by comparison.  Don't know if
>> this will help. Joyce
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Chuck Alexander <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I see. Sounds painful LOL.. I got bad news today as to the reality of
>>> how the insurance industry works in America. Our car's damage was really
>>> (besides the AC condenser and radiator rupturing) was no more that a
>>> "fender bender". Frame was NOT bent, no windshields busted out, even the
>>> air bags didn't have to be replaced and/or rest etc. But the insurance is
>>> "totalling" the car, and they are going to pay us a check that amounts to
>>> $400 LESS than what it will take to pay off what we owe on the car. It's
>>> got us both hot under the collar to say the least. Mad as hell is more like
>>> it. But, the insurance industry here has some of the biggest lobbyists in
>>> Washington as well as in the state governments, and so they are all in
>>> cahoots and one hand feeds the other in their world. I riced all the parts
>>> that the car would have had to replaced, added the $65-95 per hour labor
>>> together and it should have been at the extremely high end, no more than
>>> $2000-2200. They (the garage/body shop) wanted the insurance company to pay
>>> them $4400+.
>>>
>>> And in the state of Alabama, the insurance adjustors here work for the
>>> state apparently (This is all new to us as it’s the first claim like this
>>> we have EVER claimed in our lives.  But anyway, once the adjuster signs off
>>> as the car being "totalled", That's it, even if I could fix it myself I'd
>>> have to pay off the lien, then try and find out which salvage yard they are
>>> going to sell it to, go there and "buy" the car from them, and that might
>>> be $1000-3000. Then, I'd have to file (and pay enormous fees) for a
>>> "scrapyard repaired" new title on the car in order to get a title, tags and
>>> insurance.
>>>
>>> We have paid this company (Progressive Insurance Company) EVERY month
>>> for over ten YEARS, and they GLADLY take our premium money, but file a
>>> claim and then it’s like they think you are robbing them. I told the
>>> insurance guy (or asked him) "why the heck didn't you guys get a cpl more
>>> estimates, as you know that's was highway robbery  and he said that was
>>> their only "authorized garage" that they deal with in the area. I said
>>> "well if that's the case, you guys should shop around (like I'm going to do
>>> when I get another car) and find a place that would repair them cheaper
>>> than that because that price is a rip off and that it would save both them
>>> and their customers (policy holders) money" But that’s how it works here.
>>> The big guys get the gold mine and the little guys get the shaft LOL. Chuck
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Reuven Segal
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:46 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [VFB] OFF TOPIC. My Baby got crashed into by a deer
>>>
>>> 6ft+
>>>
>>> Pure muscle.
>>>
>>> More often than not, people are injured when the roo goes through the
>>> windscreen and struggles to escape and kicks and scratches the
>>> occupants. The way they fight is that they stand on their tails and kick
>>> forward. I have seen on the news one guy who tried to feed a small one
>>> and ended up with dozens of stitches from a single kick. Lets see one of
>>> your deers do that!
>>>
>>> On 7/11/2014 1:33 PM, Chuck Alexander wrote:
>>>
>>>> Reuven: That's normally how the big buck deer do it here. If my son had
>>>> been going full speed that tin can of a car would have been history. A
>>>> Kaangaroo might get hot by the car though, then turn around and kick the
>>>> car as well LOL..How big do those things get (weight) anyway??  Chuck
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Reuven Segal
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 6:49 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [VFB] OFF TOPIC. My Baby got crashed into by a deer
>>>>
>>>> A deer is nothing compared to totalling a car with a kangaroo. They are
>>>> solid muscle, and will hop away after totalling a car.
>>>> On 7/11/2014 6:23 AM, Chuck Alexander wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Same here: I had a brother in law killed like that, and my Daddy had a
>>>>> deer total his truck one morning on his way to work. Those things hit just
>>>>> right, and they can do MAJOR damage for sure, Chuck
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Allan Fish
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 1:09 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [VFB] OFF TOPIC. My Baby got crashed into by a deer
>>>>>
>>>>> Thankfully, my son was shaken up, but not injured.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank God.  We had a similar incident here in the county a few years
>>>>> ago
>>>>> that was fatal.  The buck's hind legs came through the windshield on
>>>>> the
>>>>> driver's side.  One hoof went through the young man's chest and through
>>>>> his heart.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm really glad your son had the alertness to slow down.
>>>>>
>>>>> af
>>>>>
>>>>>
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