Wes: I thought that might be the case, but wasn’t possible. Gotta have the 
government protecting us from ourselves in EVERY aspect of our lives ..That 
does seem like a waste at what they through out, but I guess they wouldn’t stay 
in business very long of black was “black” one day and “dark purple” the next.  
Chuck

From: Wes Wada 
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 3:56 PM
To: VFB Mail 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Dying feathers with Rit dye ???

Just a note:  I had some time last fall to spend a couple days at the Spirit 
River plant and warehouses in Glide, Oregon.  

The Spirit River dyeing plant is overseen by the EPA, as their dyeing process 
uses chemicals that are not available to most people.  

Every step is monitored by the EPA.  We are talking hazardous stuff here.  
That's why it is so hard for the every day fly tier to get dependable results 
that match the store-bought dyed products.

What was amazing is the quantity of feathers they go through to maintain stock. 
 The most difficult thing is to match the colors in the official company color 
charts. 

I came home with two gallon volume worth of mis-dyed marabou in all sorts of 
colors.  Literally stuff put into the waste bin from the tying room operation 
because it did not match the color on the quality control patches.

Dyeing results and colors will differ according to how much oil the material 
has in its feathers or fur, the age of the pelt, or what portion of the hide 
(back, belly, side) is being used to dye.  All these variables is why most fly 
tiers do not get consistent results while dyeing.

Wes



On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Chuck Alexander 
<[email protected]> wrote:

  Thanks a lot. I love anything by A. K. Best anyway, and didn’t even know he 
had this book. Chuck

  From: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:27 PM
  To: mail, vfb 
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Dying feathers with Rit dye ???

  Chuck

  Get a copy of A.K. Best's book DYING & BLEACHING Natural fly-tying materials. 
 Feathers and cotton do not dye the same way.  Best has full instructions and 
will take you through it step by step.
  Gary s


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  Folks: Can anybody give me the “secret” to dying feathers (and/or fabric) 
with Rit dye?? What happened is that my son had some dark purple demin material 
he wanted dyed black. He added TWO boxes of Rit dye to the three gallons or so 
of water as he had four yards of material to dye. Adde the salt but not the 
vinegar as it said to only use the vinegar with salt if the material is silk or 
wool and not cotton. Brought the water to a boil, then let it soak all day. 
Still just came out a darker purple and NIT jet black like the dye is.

  Now is my problem in that. He saved the water as I have a ton of grizzly 
feathers, but hardly any black, so I was just going to sye a grizzly neck in 
that same dye water mix after he finished. But I don’t want the grizzly to go 
from black and white, to purple ad white. Any tips?? Should I add vinegar?? 
Thanks, Chuck




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