Will do, Chuck

From: Allan Fish 
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 6:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [VFB] Dying feathers with Rit dye ???

If you get hold of aniline dyes be sure to wear good rubber gloves. And a mask 
wouldn't be out of order either. Not only do they dye your hands, they are 
absorbed through the skin. Think about liver problems,cancer and other fun 
things like that. 

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On Nov 19, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Phxflytyer <phxflyt...@cox.net> wrote:


  What about using anilin dyes?



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  Thank You,
  Alan Di Somma
  Phoenix, AZ.

  Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.



  On Nov 19, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com> wrote:


    May I suggest, before you have done  the dyeing, etc. that you may want to 
just keep the grizzly hackle without dyeing  it and go to Lakelandflytying.com 
in the UK and just buy one of their Whiting saddles or necks in the color you 
want. They have the best dyed feathers I have ever had the chance to use, and 
in wonderful blacks, including a claret black that is superb on tiny midges.  
For a natural black, you will want to check out the people who bought Denny 
Conrad's stock.  He has natural blacks that are awesome.  Joyce

    On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:09 PM, <jerryp...@comcast.net> wrote:

      Chuck:
        The dyes in that kit are not the same as Kool Aid unless you're 
thinking Jonestown or the dyes you see in the stores around Easter time. In the 
instructions that came with the kit in large letters is "Do not eat any egg 
treated with these dyes"  I've thought about picking up a couple of packs of 
the people friendly Easter egg dyes in the $Store after Easter.  Good Luck.  
Just remember that a black hackle neck is not a black grizzly hackle neck.

      Jerry C

      "All things considered I'd rather be in Philadelphia."


      ----- Original Message -----
      Jerry: Thanks. I bet my daughter has some of those dye tablet left over. 
And
      if she don't have black I guess I could try it the way my printer makes
      "black" using the red, blue and yellow mixed to make "black". But I'll bet
      that type dye would be about the same thing as the dyes in Kool Aid (food
      grade dyes) with the vinegar added to "set" the colors. Anyway, I guess I
      could try just a few feathers and see what happens. Maybe I should just
      break down and tell my wife I want a black hackle  neck for an early
      Christmas gift. I HAVE been a "good little boy" this year after all LOL..
      When I'm asleep at least hahaha. At least all the great tips are giving 
me a
      lot of options to try to see what works best for me. I think I have a 
light
      cream colored neck that might come out better than my idea of starting 
with
      a grizzly neck anyway. Thanks again, Chuck

      -----Original Message-----
      From: jerryp...@comcast.net
      Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:22 PM
      To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
      Subject: Re: [VFB] Dying feathers with Rit dye ???

      Chuck:
        I've only dyed grizzly hackle one time.  I had several grizzly saddles 
of
      various quality where I had used up most of the good dry fly hackle and 
had
      found an old Ukrainian Easter Egg kit my grandmother had used to make the
      eggs.  There were several packets of dye left including black.  So I
      followed the directions which included adding vinegar to the mix and came
      out with some decent grizzly hackles, dark green, yellow, orange, red,
      purple and black.  The grizzly dyed black came out all black, you can see
      the grizzly pattern, I think because the dyed black part is a bit glossier
      and maybe a bit darker than the dyed white portion.  Go for it.

      Jerry Caruso
      "All things considered I'd rather be in Philadelphia."

      ----- Original Message -----
      Folks: Can anybody give me the “secret” to dying feathers (and/or fabric)
      with Rit dye?? What happened is that my son had some dark purple demin
      material he wanted dyed black. He added TWO boxes of Rit dye to the three
      gallons or so of water as he had four yards of material to dye. Adde the
      salt but not the vinegar as it said to only use the vinegar with salt if 
the
      material is silk or wool and not cotton. Brought the water to a boil, then
      let it soak all day. Still just came out a darker purple and NIT jet black
      like the dye is.

      Now is my problem in that. He saved the water as I have a ton of grizzly
      feathers, but hardly any black, so I was just going to sye a grizzly neck 
in
      that same dye water mix after he finished. But I don’t want the grizzly to
      go from black and white, to purple ad white. Any tips?? Should I add
      vinegar?? Thanks, Chuck

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