Joyce: Thanks. Those look like great hackles in the smaller sizes I want as well, and the ones I saw said pro grade for L22 (British pounds) which would be only $34 and change according to the exchange rate I looked up which is not bad at all for the ones I saw in the pics. Chuck
From: Joyce M Westphal Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VFB] Dying feathers with Rit dye ??? May I suggest, before you have done the dyeing, etc. that you may want to just keep the grizzly hackle without dyeing it and go to Lakelandflytying.com in the UK and just buy one of their Whiting saddles or necks in the color you want. They have the best dyed feathers I have ever had the chance to use, and in wonderful blacks, including a claret black that is superb on tiny midges. For a natural black, you will want to check out the people who bought Denny Conrad's stock. He has natural blacks that are awesome. Joyce On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:09 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: Chuck: The dyes in that kit are not the same as Kool Aid unless you're thinking Jonestown or the dyes you see in the stores around Easter time. In the instructions that came with the kit in large letters is "Do not eat any egg treated with these dyes" I've thought about picking up a couple of packs of the people friendly Easter egg dyes in the $Store after Easter. Good Luck. Just remember that a black hackle neck is not a black grizzly hackle neck. Jerry C "All things considered I'd rather be in Philadelphia." ----- Original Message ----- Jerry: Thanks. I bet my daughter has some of those dye tablet left over. And if she don't have black I guess I could try it the way my printer makes "black" using the red, blue and yellow mixed to make "black". But I'll bet that type dye would be about the same thing as the dyes in Kool Aid (food grade dyes) with the vinegar added to "set" the colors. Anyway, I guess I could try just a few feathers and see what happens. Maybe I should just break down and tell my wife I want a black hackle neck for an early Christmas gift. I HAVE been a "good little boy" this year after all LOL.. When I'm asleep at least hahaha. At least all the great tips are giving me a lot of options to try to see what works best for me. I think I have a light cream colored neck that might come out better than my idea of starting with a grizzly neck anyway. Thanks again, Chuck -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VFB] Dying feathers with Rit dye ??? Chuck: I've only dyed grizzly hackle one time. I had several grizzly saddles of various quality where I had used up most of the good dry fly hackle and had found an old Ukrainian Easter Egg kit my grandmother had used to make the eggs. There were several packets of dye left including black. So I followed the directions which included adding vinegar to the mix and came out with some decent grizzly hackles, dark green, yellow, orange, red, purple and black. The grizzly dyed black came out all black, you can see the grizzly pattern, I think because the dyed black part is a bit glossier and maybe a bit darker than the dyed white portion. Go for it. Jerry Caruso "All things considered I'd rather be in Philadelphia." ----- Original Message ----- Folks: Can anybody give me the “secret” to dying feathers (and/or fabric) with Rit dye?? What happened is that my son had some dark purple demin material he wanted dyed black. He added TWO boxes of Rit dye to the three gallons or so of water as he had four yards of material to dye. Adde the salt but not the vinegar as it said to only use the vinegar with salt if the material is silk or wool and not cotton. Brought the water to a boil, then let it soak all day. Still just came out a darker purple and NIT jet black like the dye is. Now is my problem in that. 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