Don,I agree with you on the old type hackle pliers but I really don't use them
anymore since I use the hinge type. I added a bit of shrink tubing on the jaws
and that works fine and prevents slipping.One of the things I liked about the
old type is you could put your finger in the loop and just twirl it around with
the hackle. I liked it for collar hacklesWhen I started tying a number of
Parachute flies that is when I went to the hinge pliers and I just never went
back to the old ones.We just use what works best for us.Tony
On Friday, March 13, 2015 9:18 AM, Don Ordes <[email protected]> wrote:
Chuck,Seems like you came up with the correct decision to nix the rotary
hackle pliers. I have a set and never use them. I also have an old
squeeze-spring type with rubber pads, and I’ll use them before the rotary. The
rubber pads on the old pliers are the key as they don’t allow the pliers to put
a break-bend in the hackle stem, just a ‘soft’ bend at most. The rotary is hard
metal and if you put any angle on the hackle while pulling you break the hackle
with the crack in the stem that it creates. The old hackle pliers is a spring
loop and you can put your finger in the bend and sort of ‘rotary’ the hackle.
Secondly, the ‘old’ hackle pliers came in handy with the old short hackles,
which is all we had for decades- sometimes took two hackles to tie a fly. With
the advent of Hoffman’s, and then Whiting genetics, the hackles are so long
that it’s easy to hang on to the hackle tip with your fingers while winding.
I’ve just struck up a deal with a local friend here in Nampa to be my
videographer and editor. I have been so busy with work I haven’t had time to
even keep up with Fantasy Fly orders. But he’s going to assist me in YouTube
tutorial videos, DVDs, and other videos I want to do. After we do a rope-dub
intro video, we’ll do some fundamental tying tutorials, and I have a list of a
dozen fundamentals that I will post videos on, one of them being innovative
ways of using Whiting hackles. I’m also going to do a video of my old pool
trick shots from 30 years ago. Should be fun. DonO From: Chuck Alexander Sent:
Friday, March 13, 2015 12:16 AMTo: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VFB]
Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary
vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t
actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the
number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL..
Chuck From: Neville Gosling Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AMTo:
[email protected] Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I
can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother
because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes
anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing 😃 Neville (Nev) Gosling
"A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted"
On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander <[email protected]>
wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I
went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I
think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the
end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of
tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to
tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he
was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly
ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck
From: Joyce M Westphal Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To:
[email protected] Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I have
some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle pliers tip as
I find it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers tips that come
together. I think it is just a matter of preference. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015
at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling <[email protected]> wrote:
My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver BC Canada
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On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander <[email protected]>
wrote: Folks: I’m getting a fly tying materials order and have always
wanted to try a pair of Rotary Hackle Pliers. Do they work good?? Are they
better than regular hackle pliers. Only problem I foresee is that after you
wrap the hackle, those rotary pliers will hang down a lot farther than normal
hackle pliers, making getting your lock in thread wraps behind the hackle would
be harder to do than using reg. hackle pliers. Am I missing something there??
Thanks for any pros or cons. They are only $3.45 from Stockard, which is the
place I’m ordering from, but if I’ll never use them, that’s $3.45 I could use
on something I will use. Chuck
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