Tony: I’ll have to try those electrical hooks as I bought a dozen of them a 
while back when tying the poppers for the swap as they make GREAT holders while 
painting the popper heads and waiting for it to dry while I’m waiting to put on 
the next coat, or the final clear coats. Well, I guess I change my mind more 
than most women LOL.. Last night, I had not hit the “order button” yet as I 
couldn’t order it till this morning after 6am. So, I  took the two sets of 
swivel hackle pliers off and added more beetle and spider foam bodies. 

Then, after thinking about it again at about 3 in the am, I re-added the pliers 
back to the order and also added a spider body foam “cutter” to the order as I 
tie those flies all the time and never can make them look decent by cutting the 
foam by hand LOL... So, I went over the budget my wife gave me to spend, but I 
reminded her about how many fish she catches with those spider patterns, beetle 
patterns, and ant patterns, as I use about the same shape for all three LOL.. 
It did the trick and she ain’t mad at me after all. 

Not if I tie her a bunch of good fish catching flies anyway LOL... I’ll have to 
try spiders with hot pink and copper colored bodies and see they catch fish as 
well as the Chili Pepper and the PPP fly do for us. One thing about a fish is 
that you never know until you try. Oh, and talking about going over budget on 
things, we JUST last week had a brand new, Harbor Freight super store open here 
about 15 miles from our house. I’d love to go in there with a wad of cash 
LOL... Chuck

From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 2:52 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??

Nev,
I also used the Electrical hooks and they work fine just like a good pair of 
pliers. I wrap my Parachutes a bit different than normal. What I find I can 
hold the arm vertical while the pliers is alt an angle. I can work the hackle 
down under the upper wrap then over the hook shank and dip back under the  wrap 
with a up and down motion. It just works well for me. I found I have more 
control with the hinge pliers than I have with the fixed pliers. The beauty of 
it all is we can do what works best for us.
Tony



On Friday, March 13, 2015 12:25 PM, Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca> wrote:




Hmm! you have a good point there Tony. I never thought of that. Perhaps that is 
the reason I bought the rotary hinged type in the first place. ☺️ I tie 
parachutes once in a while, but can't remember what hackle pliers I use. My go 
to hackle pliers are the electrical style as long as they have a ring to hold 
or put your finger in. They grip the hackle well.  Next time I tie some 
parachute hackled flies I will remember to use the rotary pliers. 

Nev

  On Mar 13, 2015, at 4:56 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
<vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:

  Allan give Chuck a break. LOL
  A rotary vise is useless for winding parachute hackles. The swivel hackle 
pliers is the way to go on them. That is all I have used for about 25 years. 
The long handle one is the best for that. I can show what I mean at the show., 
Gee now I am picking on you. LOL I am in a good mood this morning.
  BTW, the poppers are finished and you can pick them up at the Sowbug.
  Tony



  On Friday, March 13, 2015 1:16 AM, Chuck Alexander 
<chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:




  Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I 
already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the 
“order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam 
spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck

  From: Neville Gosling 
  Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AM
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??

  Chuck: 

  I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to 
bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both 
sizes anyhow. 
  Oh, I'm still laughing 😃

  Neville (Nev) Gosling


  "A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted"




    On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander 
<chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:

    Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead 
and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the 
other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the 
handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or 
not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me 
“Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. 
In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , 
but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck

    From: Joyce M Westphal 
    Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM
    To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
    Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??

    I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle 
pliers tip as I find  it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers 
tips that come together.  I think it is just a matter of preference. 

    On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca> 
wrote:

      My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances 

      Neville (Nev) Gosling
      Greater Vancouver
      BC  Canada





      <EZ_Hackle_Pliers.jpg> 

        On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander 
<chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:

        Folks: I’m getting a fly tying materials order and have always wanted 
to try a pair of Rotary Hackle Pliers. Do they work  good?? Are they better 
than regular hackle pliers. Only problem I foresee is that after you wrap the 
hackle, those rotary pliers will hang down a lot farther than normal hackle 
pliers, making getting your lock in thread wraps behind the hackle would be 
harder to do than using reg. hackle pliers. Am I missing something there?? 
Thanks for any pros or cons. They are only $3.45 from Stockard, which is the 
place I’m ordering from, but if I’ll never use them, that’s $3.45 I could use 
on something I will use. Chuck




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