Don: Well, as you’ll see in my post just now, I did order the rotary hackle pliers, but If they don’t work for me, the good news is that I’m only out about $8. I have only used the type you talk about with the rubber pads, and have great success with them, but just wanted to try something new. I have a cheap all metal pair that I got with my starter kit 10 yrs ago, but hate those as #1 the grip part is too small, and #2, they break the hackle stems as you say here.
Can’t wait to see the You Tube videos. You might go viral and then You Tube will start sending you a check each month. I have a friend who makes good money, while teaching others his techniques at the same time. It’s a win/win for him. I want to see the trick shots as somebody just opened a new pool hall here that is DRY, which means you can go there and not have to worry about the drunks etc, and I love to play pool, just don’t like playing with drunks LOL... Only trick shot I have is knocking the eight ball in FIRST LOL... Or “scratching” with the cue ball. I can do that shot REAL I hardly EVER miss it in fact. Chuck From: Don Ordes Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 9:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck, Seems like you came up with the correct decision to nix the rotary hackle pliers. I have a set and never use them. I also have an old squeeze-spring type with rubber pads, and I’ll use them before the rotary. The rubber pads on the old pliers are the key as they don’t allow the pliers to put a break-bend in the hackle stem, just a ‘soft’ bend at most. The rotary is hard metal and if you put any angle on the hackle while pulling you break the hackle with the crack in the stem that it creates. The old hackle pliers is a spring loop and you can put your finger in the bend and sort of ‘rotary’ the hackle. Secondly, the ‘old’ hackle pliers came in handy with the old short hackles, which is all we had for decades- sometimes took two hackles to tie a fly. With the advent of Hoffman’s, and then Whiting genetics, the hackles are so long that it’s easy to hang on to the hackle tip with your fingers while winding. I’ve just struck up a deal with a local friend here in Nampa to be my videographer and editor. I have been so busy with work I haven’t had time to even keep up with Fantasy Fly orders. But he’s going to assist me in YouTube tutorial videos, DVDs, and other videos I want to do. After we do a rope-dub intro video, we’ll do some fundamental tying tutorials, and I have a list of a dozen fundamentals that I will post videos on, one of them being innovative ways of using Whiting hackles. I’m also going to do a video of my old pool trick shots from 30 years ago. Should be fun. DonO From: Chuck Alexander Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck From: Neville Gosling Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? Chuck: I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both sizes anyhow. Oh, I'm still laughing 😃 Neville (Nev) Gosling "A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted" On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander <[email protected]> wrote: Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, Chuck From: Joyce M Westphal Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers?? I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle pliers tip as I find it breaks the hackle more often than the standard pliers tips that come together. I think it is just a matter of preference. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling <[email protected]> wrote: My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada <EZ_Hackle_Pliers.jpg> On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander <[email protected]> wrote: Folks: I’m getting a fly tying materials order and have always wanted to try a pair of Rotary Hackle Pliers. Do they work good?? Are they better than regular hackle pliers. Only problem I foresee is that after you wrap the hackle, those rotary pliers will hang down a lot farther than normal hackle pliers, making getting your lock in thread wraps behind the hackle would be harder to do than using reg. hackle pliers. Am I missing something there?? Thanks for any pros or cons. They are only $3.45 from Stockard, which is the place I’m ordering from, but if I’ll never use them, that’s $3.45 I could use on something I will use. Chuck -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. 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