I have a couple dozen spools of the Gudebrod wrapping thread.  I know I have, I 
guess it would be Garnet and probably the Candy Apple red. It's a bright red. 
Not much left on the spool though.  Going back to the Chili Pepper, I've had 
better luck with it for warm water species.  I've caught more trout on the 
White River Demon.  Tied in smaller sizes, 16, 18 and 20, usually fished as a 
dropper under a larger dry fly. 
Jerry Caruso
"All things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia."

> On November 13, 2019 at 7:42 PM Neville Gosling <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Tony:
> 
>     The original number is 326 scarlet. The two spools that I purchased on 
> eBay are marked #396 and I don’t think that is a Gudebrod number. The red 
> does not quite match and I suspect the seller has respooled from a bulk spool 
> of another brand. I still have an old Gudebrod colour chart from about 1986 
> that lists 2 other red colours being #355 Candy Apple Red and #206 Garnet. I 
> suspect I have been scammed but at least I have 2x 100 yard spools of red for 
> future builds. I never though that 1 rod would use more than 100 yards of 
> thread but there was quite a bit of wastage as the intermediate wraps were 
> only 4 or 5 turns and just handling the section they woud come undone if not 
> varnished. 
> 
>     Nev
> 
> 
> 
>     On Nov 13, 2019, at 3:05 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail < 
> [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote:
> 
>      
>     Nev,
>     Do you have a number for that thread. I might have it in my Gudebrod 
> stash of wrapping thread.
>     I will have to wait till I can get a friend to come by to check for me, 
> not able to go down stairs yet
>     Arkansas Tony
> 
>     On Wednesday, November 13, 2019, 4:19:53 PM CST, Neville Gosling < 
> [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     Hi Chuck
> 
>     I needed a specific brand, size and colour as I had already used up the 
> first 100yd spool and needed another to finish the rod. Since I started with 
> a certain red numbered colour by Gudebrod, I had to get some of the same 
> size, brand and colour. Gudebrod closed down around 8 years or so ago Due to 
> the scarcity of this puduct, I only found 2 sellers with the colour/size that 
> I wanted. They were offering old stock and one of them was so old that the 
> spools in question were wooden. The thicker sizes were available in limited 
> quantity but not the “A” that I needed. The rod that I was restoring for a 
> friend is a 1938 Hardy Gold Medal - 4 pieces including 2 tips and 
> intermediate wraps every inch or so. By the time I had finished there were 
> 171 thread wraps including the splint end ferrules and guides.
> 
>     Nev
> 
> 
>     On Nov 13, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Chuck Alexander < 
> [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote:
> 
>     Neville: Your welcome. No, I don’t have any rod wrapping thread but 
> surely there must be some on ebay etc?? Chuck
>      
>     From:  [email protected] mailto:[email protected]  
> <[email protected] mailto:[email protected] > On Behalf Of 
> Neville Gosling
>     Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 12:39 PM
>     To: VFB <[email protected] mailto:[email protected] >
>     Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB & Gudebrod
>      
>     Hi Chuck:
>      
>     Thanks for the offer, but it is the rod wrapping thread in size A that I 
> wanted and I have now got it albeit at a steep price. I did buy a fairly 
> large amount of Gudebrod fly tying thread on ebay after they went out of 
> business in primarily 8/0 and 10/0 with some 6/0 and 3/0 in limited colours. 
> Thanks again but I am well stocked in fly tying threads.
>      
>     Neville (Nev) Gosling
>      
>      
>     On Nov 13, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Chuck Alexander < 
> [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote:
>      
>     Nev: Do you need some Guderbrod thread?? Let me know as I have a lot of 
> it, but I mostly use Danville Fly master plus these days. I have about  15 
> spools of Guderbrod I’lll give you a good deal on (FREE LOL) if you email me 
> at [email protected] mailto:[email protected]  with 
> your address. I even have a new spool of that Guderbrod scarlet color in 3/0. 
> The other color range from black to white and every color in between. Some 
> are on reg sized spools, while others are on the wide skinny spools and in 
> 3/0, 6,0, and 8/0 in size. I can do that as I have enough thread to last two 
> lifetimes, but like I said, I have gotten used to the Danville’s. Chuck
>      
>     From:  [email protected] mailto:[email protected]  
> <[email protected] mailto:[email protected] > On Behalf Of 
> Rene Zillmann
>     Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:08 AM
>     To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected]
>     Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB & Gudebrod
>      
>     Hi Nev,
> 
>     so true, the list has slowed down a lot.
>     However, it is also our responsibility to revive it a bit.
> 
>     My fishing was slow this year for known reasons. One of my grandkids took 
> me out for fishing. Well, this 4 year old asked my a couple of time, if we 
> shouldn't go out and catch some fish. That's more precise. He is now eager to 
> ty some flies with me.
>     Tying season is ahead of us, so I'll intend to stock my boxes with my 
> hoppers, the blue (parachute) beetle and some EHCs.
> 
>     However, I'm wondering if I shouldn't add something new to my arsenal. 
> For trout. Suggestions?
> 
>     KR
>     Rene
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     On 11/13/2019 03:48 AM, Neville Gosling wrote:
> 
>         > >         No wonder this site is not getting much traffic. I just 
> did a search for "The Virtual Flybox” and every virtual or non-vitual flbox 
> is there except VFB. There is a virtual flybox in Colorado with the same name 
> but nary a word about us. Maybe I should have searched for "Byard Miller’s 
> Virtual Flybox". Unfortunantly, since Byard lost interest in maintianing the 
> site, we seem to have slipped to the bottom of the list or even right off! It 
> it little wonder that we get little interest from newcomers. It really is a 
> shame.  
> >          
> >         Changing the subject, does anyone know or remember when thread 
> > maker Gudebrod went out of business after losing a conract to supply dental 
> > floss which it seems was keeping the company going. I lose track of time 
> > but it must have at least 5 or more years ago. I recently restored a Hardy 
> > split-cane rod and used a new spool of red Gudebrod thread that I had but I 
> > ran out before finishing the rod and had to pay a small fortune for 2x100 
> > yard spools of scarlet thread to finish the job and repace what I had used.
> >          
> >         Neville (Nev) Gosling
> >         Greater Vancouver
> >         BC  Canada
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