Kevin, I would be interested in such a swap. But as being in the caddis enterprise I would like to have a late due day for your swap.
Do you think about dry flies only? There are a lot of winged wets as well. The mallard series, the grouse series atc. Guess you know them. Rene Cologne, Germany -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Kevin McClean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Datum: Donnerstag, 24. Januar 2002 15:11 Betreff: Re: [VFB] To Wing or Not To Wing >To all interested in winged flies. I really like tying winged flies wether >it be a post or a parachute fly. My favourite is tying split wings from >either Starling or Mallard. I would like to host a winged fly swap. I >think you can't get enough of these flies and it seems to me that more and >more people are leaving them out of their flies. All those interested let >me know. I would like to leave lots of time for tying the flies as I know >that sometimes they can take a while and you have to be in the mood for some >of the patterns. I would be thinking of 20 tiers with flies expected here >in Ireland middle or end of March. Let me know what your preference is and >we will go with the majority. > >Kevin >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Wally Lutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:46 AM >Subject: Re: [VFB] To Wing or Not To Wing > > >> Hello All, from the oblivion of "Distant Lurking" please allow me to add >my two >> cents. >> >> My confusion starts with the "wingless" fly. It was said here that the >hackle only >> imitated the bug's footprint in the meniscus and the fish didn't see much >more, >> this vision inaccuracy was then corrected. On this point I believe the >fish's >> excellent vision is only part of the picture: the hackle also imitates the >flutter >> of a bugs wings and gives the motion of life to a "wingless" fly. Variants >or >> American Spiders, for example, are hackle only flying or fluttering >imitations. If >> this is true then we have no truly wingless flies: unless it's not a dry >fly. >> >> We have several different types of two winged flies: traditional quill >segment >> winged flies, and No Hackle Duns. Both are used for those fish willing to >take the >> drifting insect. >> >> Rolled wings: made from hair, feather, or synthetic materials, with >divided or >> single wings are also an imitation of wings in motion. Perhaps the >winging method >> for those fishes that require the inducement of wing movement to provoke a >take. >> >> Wingless or winged: is this presentation vs. imitation theory? Each school >of >> thought serves its purpose, to ignore one or advocate one over the other >will >> limit our growth in this sport. By combine the schools into the >"Behaviourist's" >> school of fly-fishing that Leonard M. Wright, Jr. in "Fishing the Dry Fly >as a >> Living Insect" introduces, we glean the best of it. We don't argue with >fish: >> wingless and winged flies are both successful. No doubt, they're fly >construction >> techniques that trigger or induce fish to strike. >> >> Like the man said, "We've all watched 'em come up to the fly, inspect it, >and >> disappear." >> What are ya gon'a give 'em next, eh? >> >> Calm days >> Wally Lutz >> >> Edson AB >> Lifetime TUC Member >> >> http://www.telusplanet.net/public/whlutz/index.html >> >> " The wild fish were as the wild air, no mans possession but the free >gift of >> God." >> >> >> Arthur Ransome >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> > I know I am going to cause a heavy debate with this one so here it goes. >I >> > know when we tie in wings on or dry patterns it makes the fly look >better and >> > in some cases I can see how it would make it float better. Here is the >> > question I am asking; trout do not see the top of the fly all they see >is the >> > "footprint", so why put wings on them? The Adams has wings but the >Flightless >> > Adams does not and it is just as effective as its older brother and tied >the >> > same way with the same materials. So again I ask why wings? The Mosquito >> > pattern calls for wings and to be honest I have tied them with and >without >> > wings and have had better luck with the wingless variety, and only use >one >> > hackle in the process too. Hmmmmm, one material fly swap, sounds >intresting. >> > Might have to host that one after the Pet Hair Swap. Folks I would like >to >> > hear your thoughts and comments on this question. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Bart >> > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >
