Sound excellent. I have you on the list Kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Wing Fly Swap.
> Kevin, > > I'll tie a "Water Walker", a split hair wing with two parachutes. > > John > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin McClean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 3:02 PM > Subject: [VFB] Wing Fly Swap. > > > > Rene, > > > > I was thinking Dry fly only. The fly could be a klinkhammer, parachute, > > Winged Wolf, Winged Adams or any other winged Dry fly. I would also be > > hoping to have flies due by the end of March as we are all have Caddis > > coming out of our ears. I'll put you on the List Rene. Any other takers > > out there??????? > > > > Kevin > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rene Zillmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 9:37 PM > > Subject: Re: [VFB] To Wing or Not To Wing > > > > > > > Kevin, > > > > > > I would be interested in such a swap. But as being in the caddis > > enterprise > > > I would like to have a late due day for your swap. > > > > > > Do you think about dry flies only? There are a lot of winged wets as > well. > > > The mallard series, the grouse series atc. Guess you know them. > > > > > > Rene > > > Cologne, Germany > > > > > > -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- > > > Von: Kevin McClean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Datum: Donnerstag, 24. Januar 2002 15:11 > > > Betreff: Re: [VFB] To Wing or Not To Wing > > > > > > > > > >To all interested in winged flies. I really like tying winged flies > > wether > > > >it be a post or a parachute fly. My favourite is tying split wings > from > > > >either Starling or Mallard. I would like to host a winged fly swap. I > > > >think you can't get enough of these flies and it seems to me that more > > and > > > >more people are leaving them out of their flies. All those interested > > let > > > >me know. I would like to leave lots of time for tying the flies as I > > know > > > >that sometimes they can take a while and you have to be in the mood for > > > some > > > >of the patterns. I would be thinking of 20 tiers with flies expected > > here > > > >in Ireland middle or end of March. Let me know what your preference is > > and > > > >we will go with the majority. > > > > > > > >Kevin > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Wally Lutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:46 AM > > > >Subject: Re: [VFB] To Wing or Not To Wing > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hello All, from the oblivion of "Distant Lurking" please allow me to > > add > > > >my two > > > >> cents. > > > >> > > > >> My confusion starts with the "wingless" fly. It was said here that > the > > > >hackle only > > > >> imitated the bug's footprint in the meniscus and the fish didn't see > > much > > > >more, > > > >> this vision inaccuracy was then corrected. On this point I believe > the > > > >fish's > > > >> excellent vision is only part of the picture: the hackle also > imitates > > > the > > > >flutter > > > >> of a bugs wings and gives the motion of life to a "wingless" fly. > > > Variants > > > >or > > > >> American Spiders, for example, are hackle only flying or fluttering > > > >imitations. If > > > >> this is true then we have no truly wingless flies: unless it's not a > > dry > > > >fly. > > > >> > > > >> We have several different types of two winged flies: traditional > quill > > > >segment > > > >> winged flies, and No Hackle Duns. Both are used for those fish > willing > > to > > > >take the > > > >> drifting insect. > > > >> > > > >> Rolled wings: made from hair, feather, or synthetic materials, with > > > >divided or > > > >> single wings are also an imitation of wings in motion. Perhaps the > > > >winging method > > > >> for those fishes that require the inducement of wing movement to > > provoke > > > a > > > >take. > > > >> > > > >> Wingless or winged: is this presentation vs. imitation theory? Each > > > school > > > >of > > > >> thought serves its purpose, to ignore one or advocate one over the > > other > > > >will > > > >> limit our growth in this sport. By combine the schools into the > > > >"Behaviourist's" > > > >> school of fly-fishing that Leonard M. Wright, Jr. in "Fishing the Dry > > Fly > > > >as a > > > >> Living Insect" introduces, we glean the best of it. We don't argue > with > > > >fish: > > > >> wingless and winged flies are both successful. No doubt, they're fly > > > >construction > > > >> techniques that trigger or induce fish to strike. > > > >> > > > >> Like the man said, "We've all watched 'em come up to the fly, > inspect > > > it, > > > >and > > > >> disappear." > > > >> What are ya gon'a give 'em next, eh? > > > >> > > > >> Calm days > > > >> Wally Lutz > > > >> > > > >> Edson AB > > > >> Lifetime TUC Member > > > >> > > > >> http://www.telusplanet.net/public/whlutz/index.html > > > >> > > > >> " The wild fish were as the wild air, no mans possession but the > > free > > > >gift of > > > >> God." > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Arthur Ransome > > > >> > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > I know I am going to cause a heavy debate with this one so here it > > > goes. > > > >I > > > >> > know when we tie in wings on or dry patterns it makes the fly look > > > >better and > > > >> > in some cases I can see how it would make it float better. Here is > > the > > > >> > question I am asking; trout do not see the top of the fly all they > > see > > > >is the > > > >> > "footprint", so why put wings on them? The Adams has wings but the > > > >Flightless > > > >> > Adams does not and it is just as effective as its older brother and > > > tied > > > >the > > > >> > same way with the same materials. So again I ask why wings? The > > > Mosquito > > > >> > pattern calls for wings and to be honest I have tied them with and > > > >without > > > >> > wings and have had better luck with the wingless variety, and only > > use > > > >one > > > >> > hackle in the process too. Hmmmmm, one material fly swap, sounds > > > >intresting. > > > >> > Might have to host that one after the Pet Hair Swap. Folks I would > > like > > > >to > > > >> > hear your thoughts and comments on this question. > > > >> > > > > >> > Thanks, > > > >> > Bart > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ > > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
