So does that mean you are in?? I know how much you hate tying split wing dries.
Boatbuilder ----- Original Message ----- From: "denis goulding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] To Wing or Not To Wing > > The boatbuilder finally taking the plunge,fair play kev. > > >From: "Kevin McClean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [VFB] To Wing or Not To Wing > >Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:06:42 -0000 > > > >To all interested in winged flies. I really like tying winged flies wether > >it be a post or a parachute fly. My favourite is tying split wings from > >either Starling or Mallard. I would like to host a winged fly swap. I > >think you can't get enough of these flies and it seems to me that more and > >more people are leaving them out of their flies. All those interested let > >me know. I would like to leave lots of time for tying the flies as I know > >that sometimes they can take a while and you have to be in the mood for > >some > >of the patterns. I would be thinking of 20 tiers with flies expected here > >in Ireland middle or end of March. Let me know what your preference is and > >we will go with the majority. > > > >Kevin > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Wally Lutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:46 AM > >Subject: Re: [VFB] To Wing or Not To Wing > > > > > > > Hello All, from the oblivion of "Distant Lurking" please allow me to > >add > >my two > > > cents. > > > > > > My confusion starts with the "wingless" fly. It was said here that the > >hackle only > > > imitated the bug's footprint in the meniscus and the fish didn't see > >much > >more, > > > this vision inaccuracy was then corrected. On this point I believe the > >fish's > > > excellent vision is only part of the picture: the hackle also imitates > >the > >flutter > > > of a bugs wings and gives the motion of life to a "wingless" fly. > >Variants > >or > > > American Spiders, for example, are hackle only flying or fluttering > >imitations. If > > > this is true then we have no truly wingless flies: unless it's not a dry > >fly. > > > > > > We have several different types of two winged flies: traditional quill > >segment > > > winged flies, and No Hackle Duns. Both are used for those fish willing > >to > >take the > > > drifting insect. > > > > > > Rolled wings: made from hair, feather, or synthetic materials, with > >divided or > > > single wings are also an imitation of wings in motion. Perhaps the > >winging method > > > for those fishes that require the inducement of wing movement to provoke > >a > >take. > > > > > > Wingless or winged: is this presentation vs. imitation theory? Each > >school > >of > > > thought serves its purpose, to ignore one or advocate one over the other > >will > > > limit our growth in this sport. By combine the schools into the > >"Behaviourist's" > > > school of fly-fishing that Leonard M. Wright, Jr. in "Fishing the Dry > >Fly > >as a > > > Living Insect" introduces, we glean the best of it. We don't argue with > >fish: > > > wingless and winged flies are both successful. No doubt, they're fly > >construction > > > techniques that trigger or induce fish to strike. > > > > > > Like the man said, "We've all watched 'em come up to the fly, inspect > >it, > >and > > > disappear." > > > What are ya gon'a give 'em next, eh? > > > > > > Calm days > > > Wally Lutz > > > > > > Edson AB > > > Lifetime TUC Member > > > > > > http://www.telusplanet.net/public/whlutz/index.html > > > > > > " The wild fish were as the wild air, no mans possession but the > >free > >gift of > > > God." > > > > > > > > > Arthur Ransome > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > I know I am going to cause a heavy debate with this one so here it > >goes. > >I > > > > know when we tie in wings on or dry patterns it makes the fly look > >better and > > > > in some cases I can see how it would make it float better. Here is the > > > > question I am asking; trout do not see the top of the fly all they see > >is the > > > > "footprint", so why put wings on them? The Adams has wings but the > >Flightless > > > > Adams does not and it is just as effective as its older brother and > >tied > >the > > > > same way with the same materials. So again I ask why wings? The > >Mosquito > > > > pattern calls for wings and to be honest I have tied them with and > >without > > > > wings and have had better luck with the wingless variety, and only use > >one > > > > hackle in the process too. Hmmmmm, one material fly swap, sounds > >intresting. > > > > Might have to host that one after the Pet Hair Swap. Folks I would > >like > >to > > > > hear your thoughts and comments on this question. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bart > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
