Kevin, I'll tie a "Water Walker", a split hair wing with two parachutes.
John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin McClean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 3:02 PM Subject: [VFB] Wing Fly Swap. > Rene, > > I was thinking Dry fly only. The fly could be a klinkhammer, parachute, > Winged Wolf, Winged Adams or any other winged Dry fly. I would also be > hoping to have flies due by the end of March as we are all have Caddis > coming out of our ears. I'll put you on the List Rene. Any other takers > out there??????? > > Kevin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rene Zillmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 9:37 PM > Subject: Re: [VFB] To Wing or Not To Wing > > > > Kevin, > > > > I would be interested in such a swap. But as being in the caddis > enterprise > > I would like to have a late due day for your swap. > > > > Do you think about dry flies only? There are a lot of winged wets as well. > > The mallard series, the grouse series atc. Guess you know them. > > > > Rene > > Cologne, Germany > > > > -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Kevin McClean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Datum: Donnerstag, 24. Januar 2002 15:11 > > Betreff: Re: [VFB] To Wing or Not To Wing > > > > > > >To all interested in winged flies. I really like tying winged flies > wether > > >it be a post or a parachute fly. My favourite is tying split wings from > > >either Starling or Mallard. I would like to host a winged fly swap. I > > >think you can't get enough of these flies and it seems to me that more > and > > >more people are leaving them out of their flies. All those interested > let > > >me know. I would like to leave lots of time for tying the flies as I > know > > >that sometimes they can take a while and you have to be in the mood for > > some > > >of the patterns. I would be thinking of 20 tiers with flies expected > here > > >in Ireland middle or end of March. Let me know what your preference is > and > > >we will go with the majority. > > > > > >Kevin > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Wally Lutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:46 AM > > >Subject: Re: [VFB] To Wing or Not To Wing > > > > > > > > >> Hello All, from the oblivion of "Distant Lurking" please allow me to > add > > >my two > > >> cents. > > >> > > >> My confusion starts with the "wingless" fly. It was said here that the > > >hackle only > > >> imitated the bug's footprint in the meniscus and the fish didn't see > much > > >more, > > >> this vision inaccuracy was then corrected. On this point I believe the > > >fish's > > >> excellent vision is only part of the picture: the hackle also imitates > > the > > >flutter > > >> of a bugs wings and gives the motion of life to a "wingless" fly. > > Variants > > >or > > >> American Spiders, for example, are hackle only flying or fluttering > > >imitations. If > > >> this is true then we have no truly wingless flies: unless it's not a > dry > > >fly. > > >> > > >> We have several different types of two winged flies: traditional quill > > >segment > > >> winged flies, and No Hackle Duns. Both are used for those fish willing > to > > >take the > > >> drifting insect. > > >> > > >> Rolled wings: made from hair, feather, or synthetic materials, with > > >divided or > > >> single wings are also an imitation of wings in motion. Perhaps the > > >winging method > > >> for those fishes that require the inducement of wing movement to > provoke > > a > > >take. > > >> > > >> Wingless or winged: is this presentation vs. imitation theory? Each > > school > > >of > > >> thought serves its purpose, to ignore one or advocate one over the > other > > >will > > >> limit our growth in this sport. By combine the schools into the > > >"Behaviourist's" > > >> school of fly-fishing that Leonard M. Wright, Jr. in "Fishing the Dry > Fly > > >as a > > >> Living Insect" introduces, we glean the best of it. We don't argue with > > >fish: > > >> wingless and winged flies are both successful. No doubt, they're fly > > >construction > > >> techniques that trigger or induce fish to strike. > > >> > > >> Like the man said, "We've all watched 'em come up to the fly, inspect > > it, > > >and > > >> disappear." > > >> What are ya gon'a give 'em next, eh? > > >> > > >> Calm days > > >> Wally Lutz > > >> > > >> Edson AB > > >> Lifetime TUC Member > > >> > > >> http://www.telusplanet.net/public/whlutz/index.html > > >> > > >> " The wild fish were as the wild air, no mans possession but the > free > > >gift of > > >> God." > > >> > > >> > > >> Arthur Ransome > > >> > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > > >> > I know I am going to cause a heavy debate with this one so here it > > goes. > > >I > > >> > know when we tie in wings on or dry patterns it makes the fly look > > >better and > > >> > in some cases I can see how it would make it float better. Here is > the > > >> > question I am asking; trout do not see the top of the fly all they > see > > >is the > > >> > "footprint", so why put wings on them? The Adams has wings but the > > >Flightless > > >> > Adams does not and it is just as effective as its older brother and > > tied > > >the > > >> > same way with the same materials. So again I ask why wings? The > > Mosquito > > >> > pattern calls for wings and to be honest I have tied them with and > > >without > > >> > wings and have had better luck with the wingless variety, and only > use > > >one > > >> > hackle in the process too. Hmmmmm, one material fly swap, sounds > > >intresting. > > >> > Might have to host that one after the Pet Hair Swap. Folks I would > like > > >to > > >> > hear your thoughts and comments on this question. > > >> > > > >> > Thanks, > > >> > Bart > > >> > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >
