The boatbuilder finally taking the plunge,fair play kev.
>From: "Kevin McClean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [VFB] To Wing or Not To Wing >Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:06:42 -0000 > >To all interested in winged flies. I really like tying winged flies wether >it be a post or a parachute fly. My favourite is tying split wings from >either Starling or Mallard. I would like to host a winged fly swap. I >think you can't get enough of these flies and it seems to me that more and >more people are leaving them out of their flies. All those interested let >me know. I would like to leave lots of time for tying the flies as I know >that sometimes they can take a while and you have to be in the mood for >some >of the patterns. I would be thinking of 20 tiers with flies expected here >in Ireland middle or end of March. Let me know what your preference is and >we will go with the majority. > >Kevin >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Wally Lutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:46 AM >Subject: Re: [VFB] To Wing or Not To Wing > > > > Hello All, from the oblivion of "Distant Lurking" please allow me to >add >my two > > cents. > > > > My confusion starts with the "wingless" fly. It was said here that the >hackle only > > imitated the bug's footprint in the meniscus and the fish didn't see >much >more, > > this vision inaccuracy was then corrected. On this point I believe the >fish's > > excellent vision is only part of the picture: the hackle also imitates >the >flutter > > of a bugs wings and gives the motion of life to a "wingless" fly. >Variants >or > > American Spiders, for example, are hackle only flying or fluttering >imitations. If > > this is true then we have no truly wingless flies: unless it's not a dry >fly. > > > > We have several different types of two winged flies: traditional quill >segment > > winged flies, and No Hackle Duns. Both are used for those fish willing >to >take the > > drifting insect. > > > > Rolled wings: made from hair, feather, or synthetic materials, with >divided or > > single wings are also an imitation of wings in motion. Perhaps the >winging method > > for those fishes that require the inducement of wing movement to provoke >a >take. > > > > Wingless or winged: is this presentation vs. imitation theory? Each >school >of > > thought serves its purpose, to ignore one or advocate one over the other >will > > limit our growth in this sport. By combine the schools into the >"Behaviourist's" > > school of fly-fishing that Leonard M. Wright, Jr. in "Fishing the Dry >Fly >as a > > Living Insect" introduces, we glean the best of it. We don't argue with >fish: > > wingless and winged flies are both successful. No doubt, they're fly >construction > > techniques that trigger or induce fish to strike. > > > > Like the man said, "We've all watched 'em come up to the fly, inspect >it, >and > > disappear." > > What are ya gon'a give 'em next, eh? > > > > Calm days > > Wally Lutz > > > > Edson AB > > Lifetime TUC Member > > > > http://www.telusplanet.net/public/whlutz/index.html > > > > " The wild fish were as the wild air, no mans possession but the >free >gift of > > God." > > > > > > Arthur Ransome > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > I know I am going to cause a heavy debate with this one so here it >goes. >I > > > know when we tie in wings on or dry patterns it makes the fly look >better and > > > in some cases I can see how it would make it float better. Here is the > > > question I am asking; trout do not see the top of the fly all they see >is the > > > "footprint", so why put wings on them? The Adams has wings but the >Flightless > > > Adams does not and it is just as effective as its older brother and >tied >the > > > same way with the same materials. So again I ask why wings? The >Mosquito > > > pattern calls for wings and to be honest I have tied them with and >without > > > wings and have had better luck with the wingless variety, and only use >one > > > hackle in the process too. Hmmmmm, one material fly swap, sounds >intresting. > > > Might have to host that one after the Pet Hair Swap. Folks I would >like >to > > > hear your thoughts and comments on this question. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Bart > > > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
