Gary,
You just opened a can of worms. I don't think there is anything new in fly
tying except the materials. I feel "Give credit where credit is due" If the
fly is tied in a non standard way and one is tied the same way in different
colors, then it is a variation of the original like "John's Fly Yellow" and not
the original "John's fly". If a tyer comes up with a fly that is tied different
than any others then they can hang their name on it. I have tied some flies
that I thought was original only to find that others have tied just about the
same fly. If I thought it up, then surely another can think up the same thing.
Sorry I can't really answer your question.
Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gary Miller wrote:
> Sorry for the cross-post, but I want to get all the opinions on this that I
> can. I hope the following makes sense.
>
> It seems to me that throughout FFing history, the slightest variation in a
> particular pattern resulted in a "new" pattern with a different name. Now
> these aren't necessarily real patterns, but for example, a bucktail
> streamer tied with black thread, silver tinsel around the hook shank, a
> yellow bucktail wing over white bucktail, with peacock herl over that, on a
> #8 4x streamer hook was called by a particular name. Change the tinsel to
> gold, the bucktail wing to red over yellow, and omit the herl and you have
> a different (although extremely similar) pattern with a different name.
>
> These days, it seems that most patterns that stray from the originators
> exact pattern aren't renamed with a new moniker, but instead are referred
> to as "a variation of...". Although as I think about it, there's not alot
> of difference in a Crazy Charlie and Lefty Kreh's, "all the bucktail on
> top", version of the Clouser Minnow. Nor is there a thimble full of
> difference between the afore mentioned "Charlie" and the "Gotcha", or the
> myriad of other bonefish flies available today.
>
> A personal example of fly similarity/variation is, I tie a "variation" of
> Tom Nixon's, "Pigboat". I use various types of chenille for the body. I
> use silicone spinnerbait/jig skirts instead of the "rubber thread" that Mr.
> Nixon specifies in his ties. Mr. Nixon palmers hackle around the chenille
> body to help hold the rubber thread skirt out away from the body. I do not
> apply palmered hackle to mine because the silicone skirts that I use stand
> out quite nicely without any assistance, even during retrieve.
>
> My question is, how far removed from the original pattern should a fly be
> before it is a different pattern?
>
> I would appreciate your feedback/opinions/expertise on this topic.
>
> - Gary
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