I have what is referred to as "shared reincarnation".
How else could all the flies that I have "invented"
resemble Lee Wullf's, Vince Marinaro's, GEM Skues',
Pritt's, Edmonds' and Lee's, Frank Sawyer's, Syd
Glasso's or Wes Drain's, to name a few?
DJ
 
--- Tony Spezio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gary,
> You just opened a can of worms. I don't think there
> is anything new in fly
> tying except the materials. I feel  "Give credit
> where credit is due" If the
> fly is tied in a non standard way and one is tied
> the same way in different
> colors, then it is a variation of the original like
> "John's Fly Yellow" and not
> the original "John's fly". If a tyer comes up with a
> fly that is tied different
> than any others then they can hang their name on it.
> I have tied some flies
> that I thought was original only to find that others
> have tied just about the
> same fly. If I thought it up, then surely another
> can think up the same thing.
> Sorry I can't really answer your question.
> Tony    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Gary Miller wrote:
> 
> > Sorry for the cross-post, but I want to get all
> the opinions on this that I
> > can.  I hope the following makes sense.
> >
> > It seems to me that throughout FFing history, the
> slightest variation in a
> > particular pattern resulted in a "new" pattern
> with a different name.  Now
> > these aren't necessarily real patterns, but for
> example, a bucktail
> > streamer tied with black thread, silver tinsel
> around the hook shank, a
> > yellow bucktail wing over white bucktail, with
> peacock herl over that, on a
> > #8 4x streamer hook was called by a particular
> name.  Change the tinsel to
> > gold, the bucktail wing to red over yellow, and
> omit the herl and you have
> > a different (although extremely similar) pattern
> with a different name.
> >
> > These days, it seems that most patterns that stray
> from the originators
> > exact pattern aren't renamed with a new moniker,
> but instead are referred
> > to as "a variation of...".  Although as I think
> about it, there's not alot
> > of difference in a Crazy Charlie and Lefty Kreh's,
> "all the bucktail on
> > top", version of the Clouser Minnow.  Nor is there
> a thimble full of
> > difference between the afore mentioned "Charlie"
> and the "Gotcha", or the
> > myriad of other bonefish flies available today.
> >
> > A personal example of fly similarity/variation is,
> I tie a "variation" of
> > Tom Nixon's, "Pigboat".  I use  various types of
> chenille for the body.  I
> > use silicone spinnerbait/jig skirts instead of the
> "rubber thread" that Mr.
> > Nixon specifies in his ties.  Mr. Nixon palmers
> hackle around the chenille
> > body to help hold the rubber thread skirt out away
> from the body.  I do not
> > apply palmered hackle to mine because the silicone
> skirts that I use stand
> > out quite nicely without any assistance, even
> during retrieve.
> >
> > My question is, how far removed from the original
> pattern should a fly be
> > before it is a different pattern?
> >
> > I would appreciate your
> feedback/opinions/expertise on this topic.
> >
> > - Gary
> >
> >
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