HI Jimmy
  Your Caddi-Humpus resembles an old pattern called a
Crazy goof.
  Dean
--- "Jimmy D. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now, you've got me wondering about my
> "Caddi-Humpus".  I invented this fly last
> spring because I just got plain tired of tying
> Humpies for a Swap.  It is a
> cross between an Elk Hair Caddis and a Humpy, and
> favors both, but it's not a
> variant, and boy is it easier to tie.  I've looked
> in every fly book I have, and
> believe me, that's a BUNCH, and I haven't seen
> anything like it anywhere.  Until
> I do, The "Caddi-Humpus" is mine - period!    And,
> by the way it catches more
> trout for me than either of the two flies that make
> up its name.  I couldn't tie
> these things fast enough last September when my
> three sons and two son-in-laws
> and I were on a week-long trout trip in Northern New
> Mexico.  If you want to see
> my creation, go to Matt's VFB Photo site:
> 
> http://vfbphotos.tripod.com/   and look it up in the
> archives.  Photo and tying
> instructions are included.
> 
> JIMMY
>
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> 
> Dan Crowe wrote:
> 
> > That's a great question. I've "invented" a handful
> of flies that are really
> > variations on successful patterns. I've felt too
> guilty about plagiarizing
> > to name most of them, so I just call them by there
> appearance - "the black
> > one with the thingy" the "itty bitty one that
> caught that fish last year",
> > etc.
> >
> > I don't really know where you draw the line. Does
> every minor wooly bugger
> > variation deserve a name? There's millions of
> them. On the other hand, most
> > dry flies fall basically into three or four
> patterns in different colors,
> > and you certainly wouldn't call an Adams a BWO.
> >
> > I think if you invent a fly and it works well when
> the one you cribbed it
> > off of doesn't, then it deserves it's own name.
> >
> > I have no authority to cite to on that, it's just
> an idea.
> >
> > Dan
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gary Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 9:49 AM
> > Subject: [VFB] Names of various flies...
> >
> > > Sorry for the cross-post, but I want to get all
> the opinions on this that
> > I
> > > can.  I hope the following makes sense.
> > >
> > > It seems to me that throughout FFing history,
> the slightest variation in a
> > > particular pattern resulted in a "new" pattern
> with a different name.  Now
> > > these aren't necessarily real patterns, but for
> example, a bucktail
> > > streamer tied with black thread, silver tinsel
> around the hook shank, a
> > > yellow bucktail wing over white bucktail, with
> peacock herl over that, on
> > a
> > > #8 4x streamer hook was called by a particular
> name.  Change the tinsel to
> > > gold, the bucktail wing to red over yellow, and
> omit the herl and you have
> > > a different (although extremely similar) pattern
> with a different name.
> > >
> > > These days, it seems that most patterns that
> stray from the originators
> > > exact pattern aren't renamed with a new moniker,
> but instead are referred
> > > to as "a variation of...".  Although as I think
> about it, there's not alot
> > > of difference in a Crazy Charlie and Lefty
> Kreh's, "all the bucktail on
> > > top", version of the Clouser Minnow.  Nor is
> there a thimble full of
> > > difference between the afore mentioned "Charlie"
> and the "Gotcha", or the
> > > myriad of other bonefish flies available today.
> > >
> > > A personal example of fly similarity/variation
> is, I tie a "variation" of
> > > Tom Nixon's, "Pigboat".  I use  various types of
> chenille for the body.  I
> > > use silicone spinnerbait/jig skirts instead of
> the "rubber thread" that
> > Mr.
> > > Nixon specifies in his ties.  Mr. Nixon palmers
> hackle around the chenille
> > > body to help hold the rubber thread skirt out
> away from the body.  I do
> > not
> > > apply palmered hackle to mine because the
> silicone skirts that I use stand
> > > out quite nicely without any assistance, even
> during retrieve.
> > >
> > > My question is, how far removed from the
> original pattern should a fly be
> > > before it is a different pattern?
> > >
> > > I would appreciate your
> feedback/opinions/expertise on this topic.
> > >
> 
> 
> 


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