Dean
Probably not. I find the under wraps are usually on heavy
boat rods. I don't recall that I have seen any on fly rods.
They may be on the heavier ones like 10 to 13 weights. I
have not seen any of those that I recall.
I can usually detect under wraps by the different color or
the length of the under wrap. I have found them to be longer
than the over wrap, it kind of looks like a tipping wrap. I
have also seen under wraps on heavy rods that are the full
llength of the guide. You can see the under wrap between the
guide feet. That is about my knowledge of under wraps, I am
sure there are others on the list can can add to this.
Tony

Dean Larson wrote:

> Tony    Would you be able to tell if a rod had the under
> wraps? I have a 9 and a 10 weight and I don't think they
> are under wraped.Dean
>
> Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>      Not Needed on an 8 wt in my opinion. Have made a
>      number of 8 wt's without
>      them. They are mostly used on boat rods.
>      If you do wrap under wraps use smaller size
>      thread for the under wrap.
>      For example, use 2/0 thread for the under wrap
>      and sz A for the over wrap
>      Reason for this is the thread will leave minute
>      valleys between the wraps.
>      If you use the same size thread it is hard to
>      get the over wraps to slide
>      against one another. The thread will get hung up
>      in these valleys.
>      By using larger thread the thread will not fall
>      in the valleys. Give it a
>      try on the blank. I think you will be a few
>      hairs less on your head when
>      you come to the Sowbug.
>
>      Rene Zillmann wrote:
>
>      > List,
>      > sorry for bothering the list with flyfishing
>      related topics
>      >
>      > I'm building a 8 wt rod (I already mentioned
>      this)
>      > In a book I read the suggestion to use
>      'under-wraps'. The concept is to
>      > make thread wraps on the space where the
>      guides will be placed later.
>      > The guides are wrapped as usually.
>      > You have the sequence: Blanc, under-wraps,
>      guides placed on them, the
>      > usual wraps.
>      >
>      > This should strengthen the guides, especcially
>      suggested for heavier
>      > weight rods?
>      >
>      > Experience? Coments?
>      >
>      > Rene
>
>
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