Deb
Hmmm... Ok then, I'll try leaving them incrementally longer and/or tying
them in wetter and wetter. The woolite will also have a bash. I agree that
the rib will be a must. A good weekends experimenting I see before me.

Am still a bit shookup to be thinking about getting another bike, but I'm
sure you are right, all in good time. Off to the physio for voluntary
torture now, so have a great weekend.

Bye now
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deb Duran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] New materials


> David
> Have you tried tying with them while they are still wet (slightly damp)?
I
> heard that somewhere also but I can't remember where.   It would seem to
me
> that they would turn brittle again when dry but I was working with spey
fly
> feathers so you would have the ribbing over it to secure it also.
> Sorry again about the bike.   Maybe you will find a new one you like
> better..
> Deb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Colyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [VFB] New materials
>
>
> > Deb
> >
> > I'll have a go with a few of each of the Guinea and Egyptian in the
> "devil's
> > engine" and see how they turn out compared to the other suggestions. I
> > haven't tried the woolite trick on quills (just soaked them in luke warm
> > water so far) I'll have a bash at some Francolin breast feathers that
> > usually drive me up the wall with quills splitting.
> >
> > Just waiting for the final word from the insurance assessor but all
> > indications are that its a write off.
> >
> > Cheers
> > David C
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Deb Duran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 12:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [VFB] New materials
> >
> >
> > > David
> > > I have heard of mites that love down comforters and pillows.  I would
> > think
> > > the short burst in the microwave would kill anything.  Microwaves cook
> > from
> > > the inside out.  So it wouldn't be a heat source like walking in the
> > desert.
> > > Some feathers do stink up the microwave but I don't have to worry
about
> a
> > > significant other that would get mad at me.  I clean it out with
Clorox
> > > wipes afterwards and the feathers aren't in there long enough to do
> > damage.
> > > Denny has a point though about the stems.  I haven't noticed mine
being
> > > effected but I do wash them in Woolite to restore the softness to the
> > > feathers.  If you have any old brittle hackles I would try this also
to
> > see
> > > if it brings them back to life.  It is also a salmon fly trick I
> learned.
> > I
> > > wonder if it wouldn't work well for quills that you use on the quill
> body
> > > flies also.
> > > Sorry about your bike...   :(    I hope it can be fixed.
> > > Deb
>
>

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