Don: Thanks for the info.. That is neat... I wonder if they could be hand
made with , say the small 6th G guitar string?? Put the wire under
magnification to bend and flatten the end to make the spade.... Course, with
my eyes, wouldn't be me doing that LOL... Chuck

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Size 32 - Chuck


> Chuck,
>
> That photo I sent you off list shows the smallest hooks I was ever able to
> find- some VMC #34's.  They are formed wire (violin), no barb, and spade
> eye.  There are also some #30 VMC's and a size 28 Mustad (for size
> reference), which is the same size as a #32 Tiemco.
>
> The Mustad #32 gold hooks are special in that they actually have barbs and
> were used for fishing (forged hooks).  Mustad discontinued the line and
the
> desireability, thus the price, of the hooks has risen.  They have spade
> eyes, so the leader must be snelled on.  I have tried everything available
> with the upper brass at Mustad's NY office, and they swear to me that they
> don't have any of these stashed away.
>
> Flyrod-builders used to put one in the wraps just at the handle, and then
> epoxy over it- just a nice touch.  The $277 box on Ebay went to such a
> rod-builder, I believe.
>
> I'm on my 3rd, and probably last, box of these things, and I have just
those
> coupla-dozen left.  (Yes, I tied them all and gave most of them away.
Some
> flies were lost by dropping them.)  Before my eyes go too fuzzy to see
them,
> I want to tie me up a managerie of size 32's and take photos, so I'm
> hoarding these.
>
> You'd have to set one in a vise and look at it to see what a challenge it
is
> to tie any fly on it.  I haven't found anyone else yet that can tie a
> full-pattern royal coachman on one, though.  Not all of them come out
> perfect, but the ones that do are pretty neat.  Finding size 32 hackle
used
> to be a challenge (almost impossibility) until Tom Whiting came out with
his
> super-saddles in midge sizes.  I tied a #32 royal coachman for Tom Zacoi's
> traveling fly show, complete with 6" of 7x leader snelled on.  It was a
real
> good one, but I didn't have the digital photography capabilities at the
time
> to get photos of it before I sent it off.
>
> Right now Mustad #28's, VMC #30, and Tiemco #32's are the smallest hooks I
> know of readily available.
>
> DonO
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chuck Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Size 32 - was Re: [VFB
>
>
> > Tony, All: Geeeeeez.. I never knew they'd be that hard to find (no pun
> > intended LOL) If ya dropped one you'd NEVER find it .. Seriously.. I
guess
> > it is a "supply and demand" thing huh?? What is the smallest size
readily
> > available??? And those TINY hooks bring HUGE bucks it sounds huh???? Be
my
> > luck, I'd try to USE it, and hang it in a tree right next to a hornets
> nest
> > first cast LOL...Chuck
> >
>
>

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