Chuck, another thing you can do is put a few wraps
against the front of the herl while holding it
straight up. A jam knot if you will. This will trap
the herl between your securing wraps and the jam in
front. With a bead head just wrap the herl as close to
bead as possible and then throw another turn of herl
for good measure. Then you can just slip the whip in
behind the bead and not have thread showing but have
things secure. If you do 2 triple whip finishers, you
should be good to go. I jam almost all of the
materials I tie in as I am also tying a lot of pond
flies that aren't real dainty and aren't compromised
by the extra thread. I hope that this helps. If you
need further help, e-mail me off-list with your phone
number and I'll call you and we can talk tying. I have
unlimited long distance and am not afraid to use it.
-Jeff

 
--- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Chuck,
> 
> If you do not trust the security of the herl, and
> your whip finish, I 
> offer you two suggestions for a workaround:
> 
> 1. twist thread and herl into rope, either the
> working thread, or the 
> thread tag end, then wrap the herl thorax.
> 2. dub the herl flue directly onto the thread, as if
> it were dubbing. 
> I do this all the time on tiny flies which have
> peacock herl in the 
> dressing.
> 
> Cheers,
> Hans
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



      
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