Joe: I'm gonna try that.. What I'm gonna do is do just what you say, then take 
my bodkin a pick at the herl just a bit to see if it is tied down pretty good. 
if it is, I'll leave off the glue on these particular fly cause I wanted the 
herl to be soft and pliable on these. That was my plan anyway. I think i may 
even lead the "hard as nails" off the thread body as i think some of it is 
"wicking" up into the herl from the backside of the fly as well..It has that 
hard bead head. I think it needs some parts to be soft to "balance" it..If that 
is what you'd call it..Thanks again, Chuck

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joseph Fusco, Sr. 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 7:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Tiny Fly Gluing question


  Chuck - 

  I have gotten to the point where I don't even use head cement even if the 
head is exposed.  On small flies, especially those witth bead heads, I just use 
two, or even three,  three turn whip knots that I force between the thorax and 
the bead.  I haven't had one come apart on me yet.  Just MHO. 

  BTW, Jerry, you can teach your spell check to recognize special words.   Mine 
accepts herl.

  -- 
  Joe Fusco, Sr.
  Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen's Association and The Virtual Fly Box 

  REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE

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  On 12/1/07, Chuck Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
    Jerry: Yeah, that's what I'm using, but it seems that even a drop on the 
needle is wicking it's way all over the herl, Chuck

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Jerry McKaughan 
      To: [email protected] 
      Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 1:46 PM
      Subject: RE: [VFB] Tiny Fly Gluing question

       
      Chuck



      How about using a bottle from Loom with a needle applicator.



      Jerry




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      From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck 
Alexander
      Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 11:38 AM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: [VFB] Tiny Fly Gluing question



      Folks: For one of my small fly flies I'm tying a midge and it has a 
peacock herl (or is it hurl???)thorax I guess it is. And it has a tiny gold 
bead head. Anyway, I'm like to get a drop of head cement ion the thread between 
the herl and the bead cause I have had bad luck with the herl coming untied in 
the past. But even with the little "needle" that comes with a bottle of head 
cement, the herl just "wicks" it right up and into the herl, thus making the 
herl hard as a rock as well. I don't want that. I wanted the herl to remain dry 
and bushy.. Cause the thread body I am putting Hanson hard as nails on, but I 
didn't want the entire fly hard as a brick.I even tried just wetting the thread 
with glue before whip finishing it, and that glue still got all over the 
herl..Any ideas??? Thanks, Chuck



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