My view is based on assumption rather than definite knowledge, but Im
vaguely sure its on the right path:

This problem is not archive.org or ourmedias fault. Or rather, if they
arre at fault, it is only for not making it clearer to all users of
the system what the correct way to use links is.

As I understand it, archive.org has a cluster system where there are
lots of differnt machines hosting different content. All the
redirector stuff is there because of this, it talks to the main server
which knows which server the content is really on and redirects.

People using the urls of the file on a specific server is therefore
dangerous practise, because at any time the way the content is
balanced across the cluster might be changed. Neither archive.org or
ourmedia have ever guaraunteed that such links would remain unchanged
for all eternity, as far as I know. I dont really use either myself,
but I just went to ourmedia and the link they give to content is
clearly of the correct www.archive.org type.

Now on the otherhand its clearly extremely understandable that so many
users have used the link to the specific server, because it is exposed
to them, you see that address in your browser, and some people have
probably advised others to use those addresses in the past. It was
wrong advise, but you werent to know.

Conclusion: Its one of those things. Within any group theres bound to
be some stuff that only a few techies know, any they may mention it
here ocassionally, but this isnt enough to 'save' the group from
mini-nightmares such as this. Whats required is that such
knowledge/warnings/advise are picked up by the masses. In practise
this may mean a non-techie translating such advise into clearspeak and
making sure its a feature of guides on prominent community websites etc.

Anyway personally I am a worrier, so I spend so my time looking for
pitfalls and potential nightmares, and I never know which ones are
appropriate to badger the group about. eg I went on and on and on
about 3ivx's apparent 'pay for me if you want to use me' policy,
because I feared that chunks of the community could fall foul of this
down the line. But clearly nobody (including me) wants the list to be
dominated by my worries, and at what point do legitimate fears/advise
become scaremongering? All I know is that I absolutely loathe it when
prior-knowledge is wasted, I hate being in a 'told you so' position,
because then its too late and it ust feels like rubbing it in and stuff.

Someone write me a self-help guide that isnt 'how to stop worrying'
but 'how to make worrying useful'.

Steve of Elbows


Steve of Elbows

--- In [email protected], Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just made a post about it on wearethemedia.com
<http://wearethemedia.com>
>
> if anyone has any information about the actual reason that this is
happening
> I would love to include it in the post.
>
> --
> Josh Leo
>
> www.joshleo.com <http://www.joshleo.com>
> www.stonefarm.blogspot.com <http://www.stonefarm.blogspot.com>
> www.joshspicks.blogspot.com <http://www.joshspicks.blogspot.com>
> www.wearethemedia.com <http://www.wearethemedia.com>




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