Should I be angry about this?...maybe. If IA and Ourmedia want people like Erin and I,
people who are not necessarily tech-savvy, why don't they make pages to explain this
stuff? Why don't they make these sites more intuitive so my mom can use them?
They do a great service-- period-- but I never feel that there are actual people at work
behind the two sites. (except for Raymond when he was a moderator) I know there are
folks working many hours on this stuff, but...I dunno..I just have some 35 links to fix..
"Shitty But Free" is the title of my autobiography
schlomo
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
--- In [email protected], "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My view is based on assumption rather than definite knowledge, but Im
> vaguely sure its on the right path:
>
> This problem is not archive.org or ourmedias fault. Or rather, if they
> arre at fault, it is only for not making it clearer to all users of
> the system what the correct way to use links is.
>
> As I understand it, archive.org has a cluster system where there are
> lots of differnt machines hosting different content. All the
> redirector stuff is there because of this, it talks to the main server
> which knows which server the content is really on and redirects.
>
> People using the urls of the file on a specific server is therefore
> dangerous practise, because at any time the way the content is
> balanced across the cluster might be changed. Neither archive.org or
> ourmedia have ever guaraunteed that such links would remain unchanged
> for all eternity, as far as I know. I dont really use either myself,
> but I just went to ourmedia and the link they give to content is
> clearly of the correct www.archive.org type.
>
> Now on the otherhand its clearly extremely understandable that so many
> users have used the link to the specific server, because it is exposed
> to them, you see that address in your browser, and some people have
> probably advised others to use those addresses in the past. It was
> wrong advise, but you werent to know.
>
> Conclusion: Its one of those things. Within any group theres bound to
> be some stuff that only a few techies know, any they may mention it
> here ocassionally, but this isnt enough to 'save' the group from
> mini-nightmares such as this. Whats required is that such
> knowledge/warnings/advise are picked up by the masses. In practise
> this may mean a non-techie translating such advise into clearspeak and
> making sure its a feature of guides on prominent community websites etc.
>
> Anyway personally I am a worrier, so I spend so my time looking for
> pitfalls and potential nightmares, and I never know which ones are
> appropriate to badger the group about. eg I went on and on and on
> about 3ivx's apparent 'pay for me if you want to use me' policy,
> because I feared that chunks of the community could fall foul of this
> down the line. But clearly nobody (including me) wants the list to be
> dominated by my worries, and at what point do legitimate fears/advise
> become scaremongering? All I know is that I absolutely loathe it when
> prior-knowledge is wasted, I hate being in a 'told you so' position,
> because then its too late and it ust feels like rubbing it in and stuff.
>
> Someone write me a self-help guide that isnt 'how to stop worrying'
> but 'how to make worrying useful'.
>
> Steve of Elbows
>
>
> Steve of Elbows
>
> --- In [email protected], Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I just made a post about it on wearethemedia.com
> <http://wearethemedia.com>
> >
> > if anyone has any information about the actual reason that this is
> happening
> > I would love to include it in the post.
> >
> > --
> > Josh Leo
> >
> > www.joshleo.com <http://www.joshleo.com>
> > www.stonefarm.blogspot.com <http://www.stonefarm.blogspot.com>
> > www.joshspicks.blogspot.com <http://www.joshspicks.blogspot.com>
> > www.wearethemedia.com <http://www.wearethemedia.com>
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